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Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm glad the AMD GPU option still exists, I don't have great experience with NVIDIA on Linux. The rest of the upgrades, like the new top cover and keyboard, are very welcome

FYI All current and future Nvidia drivers are open source, since blackwell.

Kernel driver only.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.

What's the bottleneck in getting a Macbook like touchpad experience in a modern non-Apple laptop? Is it software? Some specific company that won't sell parts to anyone else? Patents?

I have tried several laptops, and nothing has even comes close in the last ten or so years.

I am hoping you might have some unique insight into this!

PS: Framework Laptop 16 looks great, will order one later this year and then get a GPU with more vram whenever available in future.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #4

I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.

When I clicked the "Already an owner" link, it sent me to the Romanian page when I'm in the US on a desktop device that has never been abroad: https://frame.work/ro/en/marketplace?compatibility%5B%5D=lap...

Same thing happened to me. It's because the original link is to the Romanian site.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I’m out of the loop with laptop processors and GPU performance measured in “AI TOPS”.

I’m not “doing AI” locally on my laptop, are those AMD processors of any use to me?

I’m familiar with traditional X86_64 CPU architectures, I just don’t understand what (if any) extra bells and whistles the “AI” chips offer.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #112

I'm glad the AMD GPU option still exists, I don't have great experience with NVIDIA on Linux. The rest of the upgrades, like the new top cover and keyboard, are very welcome

It's so weird to hear people who have problems with NVIDIA GPUs on Linux, because for me it's always been the opposite. I have had problems with AMD but never with NVIDIA.

I have a 5070 ti running Kubuntu 25.04 and it's a mess. Animations repeating, half the desktop disappears when waking from sleep, HDMI audio cuts out... I swapped to a 7900xt and it is absolutely flawless.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can upgrade your old Framework 16 to this. Framework 13 wouldn't work anyway because it's a different chassis.

That's exactly my point. When I bought the 13 I figured there would be these kinds of upgrades down the road. You're right to say that was stupid and it was. And next there will be the framework 17, a 16 that's not backwards compatible or something?

The 13" is upgradeable, just not in the same way the 16" is. It shouldn't be surprising that you can fit more stuff in a chassis for a 16" laptop than an 13" laptop, not to mention it's harder to deal with thermal issues in a 13" laptop. While it's not unheard of, it's much less common to see a dGPU in a 13" laptop, and Framework is no exception there.

I've upgraded my Framework 13 a bunch already since I bought it in 2022, and will hopefully continue to do so for years.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #4

I'm happy to answer questions around the new product.

When I clicked the "Already an owner" link, it sent me to the Romanian page when I'm in the US on a desktop device that has never been abroad: https://frame.work/ro/en/marketplace?compatibility%5B%5D=lap...

Same for me with the configure now button

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly my point. When I bought the 13 I figured there would be these kinds of upgrades down the road. You're right to say that was stupid and it was. And next there will be the framework 17, a 16 that's not backwards compatible or something?

As framework doesn't produce their own hardware, they're also forced to live with the reality that generations are also bound by the whims of the producers. E.g sockets and chipsets change and will force incompatible changes, no matter how much framework would like to keep things stable.

Not sure what you mean by "produce". Nearly no PC/laptop brand actually manufactures their own hardware.

Framework does work with ODMs (Compal, I believe, is their main one?) to design mainboards for their chassis, which are designed specifically for Framework. It's not like they just take an off-the-shelf design and build it without any modifications.

And yes, chipsets change. (A "socket" changing isn't really a thing when we're talking about a laptop where the CPU/SoC is soldered in.) Generally this isn't a problem, though: as long as you can design something that physically fits in the chassis and supports the features you want, you're fine.

Re: Framework Laptop 16

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I'm glad the AMD GPU option still exists, I don't have great experience with NVIDIA on Linux. The rest of the upgrades, like the new top cover and keyboard, are very welcome

It'd be nice if I could upgrade my old Framework into this spec. Infinitely upgradeable is nice on a per product line basis. But new product lines still lead to obsolescence and in this case regret.

As far as I can tell, these upgrades (aside from the discrete graphics) bring the 16-inch in line with the 13-inch.

I'd be more concerned about what I'd be able to do with an older 16-inch mainboard, as the 13-inch has the Cooler Master case options.

Still rocking the Intel Tiger Lake 13-inch here, mixed Windows / Ubuntu workflow, loads of RAM.

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