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Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by mmcnl »

blindriver wrote: post #18

This is why I’m not moving off Windows 10. I’d rather move to MacOS than Windows 11 and if they force me I’ll do it.

Really?

> Apple Intelligence is designed to protect your privacy at every step. It’s integrated into the core of your iPhone, iPad, and Mac through on-device processing. So it’s aware of your personal information without collecting your personal information. And with groundbreaking Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can draw on larger server-based models, running on Apple silicon, to handle more complex requests for you while protecting your privacy.

Source: https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/

All the marketing fluff aside, Apple literally says Apple analyzes your personal information in the core of your device and sends it to the cloud for more complex tasks. That's orders of magnitude worse than Recall which is on-device, opt-in and fully encrypted.

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Post by qwerpy »

lagniappe wrote: post #78
nicoburns wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop. At which point you're either using FOSS alternatives (and dealing with it's incompatibilities with the proprietary file formats) or dealing with a very fragile wine setup. If you don't need that kind of thing then Linux is indeed pretty good these days. But especially in a business context, a lot of people do.

> It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop I run both of those on Linux, with no trouble. Who told you this?

I've been waiting for years for an acceptable way to run Onenote on Linux. The browser does not count, it fetches pages on demand and is painfully slow. There are some wrappers around the browser, those don't count either. Running a Windows VM is unacceptable. People don't have success running it through Wine so I'm not going to try.

Why do I have to use Onenote? It's free. It syncs well with other computers and mobile apps. Sharing notebooks with other people works and is free. It's intuitive enough that my wife can use it. The search works, the formatting is rich enough, you can paste in pictures.

I don't need the rest of Office. The online versions or Google docs are good enough. If I can get Onenote and Fusion360 working well on Linux, I would likely switch to Linux.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Post by mmcnl »

Eggpants wrote: post #207
Yolopix wrote: post #156

I'm tired of all these apps using Recall as a lazy way to create pointless "privacy improving" features. This is pure marketing and there is absolutely no actual intention of improving user privacy. As far as I know, Recall has never been enabled by default on any Windows-PC, even the new "Copilot+ PCs", so this should not be a concern as users have to explicitely opt-in to enable this privacy-invading feature. First…

Cool story bruh. It was initially enabled by default and by design had intern level security. Microsoft has earned, many times over, its hate.

In a beta that was never released to the public.

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Post by mmcnl »

Yolopix wrote: post #156

I'm tired of all these apps using Recall as a lazy way to create pointless "privacy improving" features. This is pure marketing and there is absolutely no actual intention of improving user privacy. As far as I know, Recall has never been enabled by default on any Windows-PC, even the new "Copilot+ PCs", so this should not be a concern as users have to explicitely opt-in to enable this privacy-invading feature. First…

You are absolutely right. Most people here are probably commenting from their MacBooks while their personal information is being sent to the cloud by Apple Intelligence and somehow that's fine. Both Brave and Signal are seeking attention by doing performative active that do absolutely nothing to increase the privacy of the end user.

Recall is already opt-in. It's fully on-device, nothing gets sent to the cloud (unlike Apple Intelligence which gets no hate at all but is worse because it sends your data to the cloud). You can disable Recall for specific apps at the OS level.

Both Brave and Signal add a feature that already exists at the OS level and then write ludicrous attention-seeking blog posts about it. Why? If you don't trust the OS to honor your settings and not spy on you, then you should consider the device compromised and you shouldn't be using it anyway. And if you're somehow still using it, why would you enable Recall on a device that you don't trust? That scenario simply doesn't exist, yet both Brave and Signal fail to mention that in their blog posts they write to gain internet points on communities like HN.

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Post by modzu »

RankingMember wrote: post #253
modzu wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just get a better new tab page: https://github.com/conceptualspace/yet-another-speed-dial

The problem is that needing to direct a non-techie to do this to "fix" something that shouldn't be broken immediately makes it fail the "grandma test".

if someone cant click "install" they probably dont need a computer

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Post by trashface »

fsflover wrote: post #140
trashface wrote: post #100

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If you have older hardware and play older games, Proton often doesn't run those as well as windows on the same hardware. On my laptop (win10/ubuntu dual boot, about 6 years old) windows is significantly faster in every game I have tried. I also had to do a futzy ad-hoc binary search to find a proton version that works with one game (either fallout 3 or fallout new vegas, can't remember which). And proton generally cr…

> If you have older hardware So Windows 11 won't work, will it?

It won't, but since 10 still exists I'm just running that now and will probably do so as long as I can - then maybe I can get a hardware upgrade, do the proton switch, and my games will run about as well as they used to with 10 on my old hardware - with some fiddling naturally.

My point is it isn't a universal truth that everybody currently running 10 can just switch to linux/proton now and it is seamless. Really depends on what you run and your hardware, as with everything linux.

I also hack some games with dll injection and I don't know how I'm going to get that working with proton, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.

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Post by nuclearsugar »

jksflkjl3jk3 wrote: post #77

I can never understand how anyone with an interest in tech hasn't switched to Linux for their personal desktop/laptop at some point in the last 20+ years. Why would you want to use a closed source OS controlled by a corporation with a past as checkered as Microsoft's?

Those of us doing creative production work really don't have a chance since the majority of apps only support Win/Mac. I understand the tech but cannot escape it.

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Post by benhurmarcel »

LooseMarmoset wrote: post #3

Who, exactly, is clamoring for Recall in the first place? And who is to say that Microsoft will honor the toggle, “for analytic and performance metric” purposes? EDIT: the rant above shouldn’t cast aspersions on Brave, good on them for trying.

> Who, exactly, is clamoring for Recall in the first place?

Well some people currently pay $19/month for that feature.

https://www.rewind.ai/

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Post by dataflow »

__rito__ wrote: post #245
dataflow wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a practical setup. What if you need to check emails or take care of some other task mid-game?

> check emails I just do it on my phone if needed. > some other task mid-game Like what? Something taking long, serious, and business/work related? Then you are stopping to play anyway. Or want to order something via Amazon? You can do it on the phone. The app or any browser is sufficient.

> I just do it on my phone if needed.

Do you have your phone by you all the time? Mine is always sitting somewhere, probably charging. On my laptop I just get a notification instantly showing me an email preview without me having to do anything. Having to go check my phone isn't a substitute for that.

> Like what? Something taking long, serious, and business/work related?

Like replying to a message? Going to fetch your phone and type on it is way more painful from than just pressing alt-tab and doing it on the computer.

> Like what? Something taking long, serious, and business/work related?

Do you have nothing long or serious outside of work? I just had to fill out some forms and do some shopping yesterday online for my personal life. That'd have been painful on the phone.

> Then you are stopping to play anyway.

Stopping the app loses your exact state... that's kind of the whole point of pausing the game.

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