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Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

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Pretty cool move, it's great to give users the choice. I'm personally very excited for Recall, but unfortunately it's still not available in the EU.

...unfortunately? I consider it privacy nightmare, especially since Windows is so widespread in the enterprise space in Europe. What is exciting about it for you?

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#42

Who, exactly, is clamoring for Recall in the first place? And who is to say that Microsoft will honor the toggle, “for analytic and performance metric” purposes? EDIT: the rant above shouldn’t cast aspersions on Brave, good on them for trying.

It seems it enables Copilot to assist the user in finding things on their PC. Somehow find . -iname has worked for years in Linux without AI

At least on OneDrive for Android, a bizarre thing is that search is _not_ equivalent to find . -iname. It is able to find search terms in the _content_ of documents but not their filenames.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#44

> We tell the operating system that every Brave tab is ‘private’, so Recall never captures it. Without this loophole Recall could take pix of password managers and other such sensitive windows. So it doesn't seem closeable without per app exceptions. But privacy is a bug on a school laptop used by a child. Brave could have a toggle on the feature if it wants to serve that market.

Your manager would say that privacy is a bug on a corporate laptop used by an employee. Luckily there are a number of countries where the legal framework doesn't let that fly.

If the law required allowing children to use their school owned laptops to browse the web without oversight or limitation, many schools could not provide them and students would lose a very valuable educational tool.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#45

Who, exactly, is clamoring for Recall in the first place? And who is to say that Microsoft will honor the toggle, “for analytic and performance metric” purposes? EDIT: the rant above shouldn’t cast aspersions on Brave, good on them for trying.

This concept is certainly in the zeitgeist. I actually built and named a product 'Recall' with identical functionality eleven years ago:

https://github.com/btc/recall

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#46
post #17

Until the time when Microsoft realises this and creates a privileged API just for Microsoft Recall so that It can see the screen. Better switch to Linux. It's not perfect but I am sure that you will be fine using Linux(Unless you want to use Adobe Suite or Few Corporate applications which won't be used by many)

You have to opt in to Recall. You must have a “Copilot+ PC” which has an “NPU”. The snapshots are stored and processed locally.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not who you asked, but the reason I migrated to Macs years ago, and the reason I stay, is that I don't want my computer to be a maintenance hobby unto itself. I need to do actual work. I also enjoy the polish Apple provides in other ways -- the platform features you get if you're on a Mac, use an iPhone, have a Watch, etc, are all pretty great. Cobbling together something like that on my own under Linux probably…

Linux isn't a maintenance hobby unto itself if you don't make it one. After the initial migration struggles (which you'll get on MacOS too), if you choose a boring distro like Debian, the maintenance burden is similar to Windows. Lots of Linux users love customizing the crap out of their stuff, so it becomes one, but it isn't inherently like that if you keep your configuration somewhat close to stock on whatever dist…

It isn't until you need something like Microsoft Office or Photoshop. At which point you're either using FOSS alternatives (and dealing with it's incompatibilities with the proprietary file formats) or dealing with a very fragile wine setup.

If you don't need that kind of thing then Linux is indeed pretty good these days. But especially in a business context, a lot of people do.

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#49

Who, exactly, is clamoring for Recall in the first place? And who is to say that Microsoft will honor the toggle, “for analytic and performance metric” purposes? EDIT: the rant above shouldn’t cast aspersions on Brave, good on them for trying.

This concept is certainly in the zeitgeist. I actually built and named a product 'Recall' with identical functionality eleven years ago: https://github.com/btc/recall

This is crazy! Can I ask how to run this ? I'm not an advanced developer & can't really tell how exactly to run this on my machine .. maybe an update on readme.md could help?

Re: Brave blocks Microsoft Recall by default

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems it enables Copilot to assist the user in finding things on their PC. Somehow find . -iname has worked for years in Linux without AI

At least on OneDrive for Android, a bizarre thing is that search is _not_ equivalent to find . -iname. It is able to find search terms in the _content_ of documents but not their filenames.

Well, you can have the same functionality with find if you want it:

find -type f -exec grep -Hn "_content_" {} \;

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