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This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Moving towards a plant-based diet would mean needing less land as we wouldn't be raising as many animals for meat. The greenhouse idea is cool, but it'd be very resource intensive. So, while we can definitely get creative with land use, we also need to consider the costs and environmental impacts.

No, it means that farmers will stop dumping so much fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides on their land chasing high yields. It means 30 bushel per acre crops instead of 100 bushel per acre crops. It means cheaper food. All good things, but land usage won't change significantly.

> means 30 bushel per acre crops instead of 100 bushel per acre crops

It would not be so bad, imho. Industrial ag might be effective (from the economic viewpoint, very destructive from the environmental one), but not as much as producers of that stuff would like us to beliveve. And if we manage to deplete our soils even further, then even industrial ag wouldn't be able to do much.

We could and should change the way we farm, while preserving comparable yields. It might be necessary to learn farming again, or invent new machinery. There are dozens of methods we could utilize (syntropic, natural, veganic farming, permaculture, food forests, nitrogen fixing plants / trees, companion planting, etc.), and new ones would be found.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/jo...

"The analysis we present here offers a new perspective, based on organic yield data collected from over 10,000 organic farmers representing nearly 800,000 hectares of organic farmland. Averaged across all crops, organic yield averaged 80% of conventional yield. However, several crops had no significant difference in yields between organic and conventional production, and organic yields surpassed conventional yields for some hay crops."

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What if it’s all a hoax, and we create a better world for nothing? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Pett#/media/File%3AWhat...

You got to explain to me how wrecking our electricity grid and living with threat of exploding electricity prices (so much so, that there has been many reports of poor people not being able to afford heating in the winter) is making the world a better place.

Wrecking the electricity grid? No, saving the electricity grid. Record high demand, normal summer prices.

https://electrek.co/2023/07/26/thanks-to-wind-and-solar-texa...

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The comparison I replied to was over a 15000 year interval. Please do not muddy the waters like this, it's rude.

Well, if the earths population was 2 million, 15000 years ago and Sudan's today is 50 million, I think it's quite clear that Sudan's population has gone up quite a bit also over 15000 years.

Get lost sealion

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By definition, if you have enough, it's not deprivation. And, at an individual level, deprivation isn't really something you can do to yourself (barring extreme circumstances, eating disorders, religious asceticism and suchlike). This does get more complicated when it's a societal level choice. You might feel subjectively energy-deprived at a very different point to me. At the same time though, a well-designed low-en…

> At the same time though, a well-designed low-energy regime isn't perceived by its citizens as despotic. There's very little call (nowadays) to smash Houston-style freeways through Europe's semi-pedestrianised neighbourhoods. Despotic it may not be, yet people vote with their feet. Way more Europeans leave their delightfully walkable cities to make a living in Houston than the other way around[0]. 650k Germans, 180k…

.. and less than 24 hours later, on YNews

‘I Don’t Want to Be Here Anymore.’ The Economic Cost of Houston’s Heat (wsj.com)

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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You should have background for your worlds. If you claim something, it doesn't mean that it is a fact until other proves the opposite.

I do! I even told you the background. You just don't like it.

Be more specific. Give me a source of idea that you claim.
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