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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by pessimizer »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators.

There have been secretive child predators ever since statutory rape was invented. The reason that you didn't have to "rub elbows" with them is because our governments hadn't begun systematically closing off all avenues for anonymity other than the one that they built and maintain for their own spying. If there's only one way to be anonymous, you get to "rub elbows" with everyone who needs to be anonymous for any reason.

It has nothing to do with child porn or crypto. Neither were responsible for the size of the distributed files kept on each of us to grow in orders of magnitude.

Speaking of "maps at our fingertips," good luck finding one that doesn't result in a record of the lookup and any GPS data submitted with it being inserted into a half-dozen databases, all freely accessible by the government, or by anybody buying in bulk.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by xigoi »

aembleton wrote: post #151
tetris11 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Organic Maps on F-Droid, is a literal godsend in offline raster maps. I used OSMand a lot on my old phone, buy since I downgraded it just could not load the vectors fast enough

Give mapy.cz in the play store a try. Seems to be much snappier than organic maps. Uses osm data

But it's proprietary, and built by a company which loves tracking.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by napierzaza »

dudeinjapan wrote: post #153
mschuster91 wrote: post #142

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Andrew Tate said essentially the same. Turns out corrupt police don't like it when someone brags with that fact. Not that I'd shed any tear for Tate or the other guy though, both deserve all they get and more.

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People swearing they'd fight to the death for people like Tate are pretty say people. It's not washing that you're not allied with him.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by pessimizer »

xigoi wrote: post #231
tekla wrote: post #148

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CP is disgusting and everything, but I'm kinda weirded out about thought crime. If no harm is being done, not even indirectly to anyone else, why is it a crime? It's not illegal to write a fanfic that you keep to yourself about all the weird ways that you want to torture and kill someone.

The issue has become so emotionalized that if you say anything that even remotely looks like supporting pedophilia, people will tell you to go kill yourself.

They'll do that if you criticize the Barbie movie, or fail to.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by brightlancer »

DenisM wrote: post #247
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

>back then it wasn’t clear that we’d ever be able to have maps at our fingertips regardless of internet access. This was back in the era of that poor CNET reporter that got lost with his family in the mountains precisely because of no maps That was 2007. I had maps of the entire US loaded on my pocket pc circa 2005. Edit: that was “Mapopolis” in my case. There were plenty more: https://wiki.geocaching.com.au/wiki/GPS…

> I had maps of the entire US loaded on my pocket pc circa 2005.

How much did that cost? How many folks had it? When did it stop getting updates?

Most folks (likely including GP) didn't have easy access to offline electronic maps in their pocket in 2007 and didn't know anyone who had offline electronic maps in their pocket.

Does that make them stupid?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by wonderwonder »

mschuster91 wrote: post #197
sudosysgen wrote: post #170

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I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. The context of his bragging about corrupt officials was on why his illegal casinos and sex trafficking operations didn't have any problems (while he himself never directly admitted to it, some of his associates tweeted about beating a "girlfriend" who wanted to stop doing webcame shows, and he heavily implies it at time when t…

> I don't think anyone is saying he should be in jail because he's saying misogynistic stuff. For what it's worth, I do. The shit he and others of his ilk teach to young, vulnerable men is inspiring a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder. In Germany, we call such persons "geistige Brandstifter" for a reason. They may not light a fire on their own - in general the…

Can you show sources for where he has caused "a lot of real-world violations of women, some even get drawn to outright terrorism and murder."?

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Post by nullc »

ragequitta wrote: post #139
mindslight wrote: post #81

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Tangential to your much larger lament - OpenStreetMap, and specifically OSMAnd which is libre and free on F-droid, works great for offline maps that are downloaded ahead of time. (I think the version on Google Play limits the number of regions you can download unless you make a small donation).

Google maps offers this functionality. I've had my local map and maps of any place I regularly go to downloaded for many years.

Google times out the downloaded maps without warning, so you go to use them and find out it won't let you use them.

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Post by pessimizer »

charlieyu1 wrote: post #162
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

Do jurisdictions really care about child porn before internet? I always feel like it is just a convenient excuse for them to get away with their bullshit, for a largely non-existent problem.

No, they didn't. They still don't. Not having a victim on the other side of the case (possession of child porn, not production of child porn) gives judges an easy excuse (and no opposition) to sympathizing with the accused and suspending the sentence.

Child porn is just leverage to pry. We used to care as much about sending information about birth control through the mail. And with the modern movement to sexualize children as soon as possible, they might have to use another excuse in 20 years. "Terrorism" will always work, because it doesn't mean anything.

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Post by EGreg »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #249
EGreg wrote: post #165

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Well, if actual harm to people and children is what we want to reduce, then perhaps decriminalizing an innocuous (as in no victims) form of it may actually reduce the harm to actual people. Just like the cases for decriminalizing prostitution and drugs: https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalizatio... And btw -- it's not just about thoughtcrime, it's a major double standard, seems to me. In the West it…

Cuties controversy was only about some versions of the poster, and no one involved saw the movie. No one who watched the movie thought it was super controversial I think.

https://www.parentstv.org/blog/how-does-a-film-critic-justif...

These guys did:

As for Netflix, how can the company possibly reconcile a “coming-of-age” film, and one that centers entirely on 11-year-old girls, with a TV-MA rating? This is not a random decision – it has become corporate practice.

We have frequently called on Netflix to stop hosting content that sexualizes children, such as Baby, Big Mouth, Sex Education, or that glamorizes rape and sexual assault such as 365 Days.

And Netflix habitually markets adult content to young audiences. Parents Television Council research of Netflix programming designated as “Teen” reveals that nearly half was rated either TV-MA (104 titles, or 40.8%) or R (23 titles, or 9.0%); and every single program that carried a TV-14 moniker included harsh profanities.

While we may not always see eye-to-eye with film critics, the criticism of the critics is telling. Cuties is not the first time Netflix has blatantly promoted programming that sexualizes children, but we’re calling on them for this to be the last.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by colanderman »

pessimizer wrote: post #261
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators. There have been secretive child predators ever since statutory rape was invented. The reason that you didn't have to "rub elbows" with them is because our governments hadn't begun systematically closing off all avenues for anonymity other than the one that they built and maintain for their own spying. If there's only o…

> good luck finding one that doesn't result in a record of the lookup and any GPS data submitted with it being inserted into a half-dozen databases

My handheld non-networked GPS unit with map tiles downloaded in bulk from OpenStreetMaps meets this criteria. Not very obscure.

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