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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I use a Nuc as my main desktop machine and LOVE not having the giant box under my desk anymore. I'm thrilled that the line will continue, because I'd have another when it's time to replace this one.

I really liked having a Mac Mini. I might pick one up in the future considering how competent Apple’s GPUs have a potential of getting. Big hopes for M3.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I think the influx of very low cost Chinese mini PCs makes the NUC, Asus PN and Asrock devices a bit less attractive. Also thelow power AMD APU has been very good for the form factor. Maybe the margins are too tight for Intel. Another take maybe that the NUC came in when low power Arm desktops looked viable and Intel needed a low power small form factor to defend against that. The Minisforum, Beelink and the generic…

Are any of these ARM systems suitable for easily running Linux on them?

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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> - No remote access / BMC. This would be the one feature that would make the systems 100x more useful. Ironically this is one of the options provided by some models in the dizzying line up. While it's not a dedicated IPMI port it uses Intel vPro for BMC like functionality. You'll pay a pretty premium for those models though.

I tried to buy one, but once I worked out what the exact model number was that had VPro I couldn't find one in stock anywhere. It should really be a standard feature, but I guess Intel didn't want to cannibalize server sales?

And if you do find one they will be a lot pricer than the other models.

The fragmentation in their lineup (and general lack of availability outside of B2B) really hamstrung them IMO.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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You can put a 4tb drive on a USB port.

*That's much slower and higher latency than the internal storage. And where do you plug in the extra RAM?

Not if you use Thunderbolt 4 SSD (enclosure)

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Yes this. The tiny PCs tend to have mobile CPUs in them as well which can feel a little sluggish. You can get a decent small desktop for the same money. I have a Lenovo Neo 50s as my main computer with a 12400, 32Gb of RAM and 1TB SN850X SSD in it. Very nice, quiet and reliable machine.

Yeah but for the same money as your Lenovo, you can get something much smaller.

It lurks under my desk getting dusty. I don't care. If it's really small it's really hard to make it lurk somewhere. It's either dangling, in some horrible mount or on top of the desk.

There's enough room in the Lenovo for a couple of PCI cards, a couple more disks and a hell of a lot more RAM if I need it too.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Old (but not too old) Fujitsu mainboards are a great hack to build a computer with low power draw, especially in idle mode. They support relatively recent Intel sockets and 4 SATA ports out of the box, so really ideal for small-ish and very affordable file- and media servers. I‘ve seen in a German forum [1] specialized in this kind of thing that people reproducibly get 5-8W idle with such boards. At least in the EU,…

I have an ASUS PN40 that idles at 1.8W (_at the wall_). This is with one SSD and LPDDR3 memory.

Yeah the small systems are often very efficient, but you can't really use them for file serving from HDDs. USB (and even eSATA) enclosures are not a suitable replacement for internal SATA ports. Their controllers & firmware are not stable enough for heavy concurrent use and often crash or become non-responsive.

Idling an old Xeon or a 12100 at 4W is also a bit more challenging than a 1.1Ghz Celeron.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Where is the ARM equivalent or put another way budget Linux Apple Mini competitor?

It's wild to me there's no clear answer for this; it seems like such an obvious product! Raspberry Pi is neat but not quite powerful enough, particularly when it comes to disk IO.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Hoping they continue Intel's long tradition of good support for Linux/BSD.

Agreed. I'm running a dual-boot Manjaro OS on the Serpent Canyon NUC (Intel 12th Gen CPU with their new A750 GPU). It was very finicky at first, but as soon as Linux 6.2 rolled around it worked almost flawlessly. For first gen hardware, that's some incredibly work by the kernel team.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Where is the ARM equivalent or put another way budget Linux Apple Mini competitor?

Try looking at ARM Embedded Single Boards. They're only ever marketed to industry for smart automation/IoT systems, but effectively fill the niche you're looking for: https://uk.farnell.com/c/embedded-computers-education-maker-...

I've saved a few during my years of lab management as they ran our infrastructure, and they're cracking PCs. Sometimes I run into fringe issues with drivers, but never anything major. Pretty much all validated on Linux OS too, so better support than most client PCs.

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