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BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

geraldwhen wrote: post #195
kypro wrote: post #26

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This isn't how it will play out though. At first chess AIs got enough to beat unskilled players. They they were good enough to beat intermediate players. Then they challenged the grandmasters. Today no human, no matter how long they practise or how hard they train will ever get close to beating an AI at chess. Your assumption that this raises the bar for human 3D artists is correct today, but it won't be long before…

This will not be true if ai produced works can’t be copyrighted.

Copyrights are one of the foundations of business. As much as the HN crowd hates them, they aren’t going anywhere. You’re literally wasting electrons.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

gaganyaan wrote: post #30
smilespray wrote: post #24

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How do you get senior people when juniors no longer have careers?

Junior software developers will still have careers, they'll just have to learn a slightly different skillset that involves more reviewing of code, like a senior developer already does. Before sometime hits merge, they need to understand if the code meets all requirements, and it doesn't really matter who or what wrote the code in the PR.

But we’ve automated away their job, why were they hired to exist learn the skills?

The demand for engineers, and therefore junior engineers, will be reduced. That is the goal.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

Thorentis wrote: post #68
smilespray wrote: post #24

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How do you get senior people when juniors no longer have careers?

There will still be junior devs. My comment was only referring to particular types of junior devs. In short, the barrier to entry foe being a junior dev will be higher, and require more CS knowledge, perhaps even more hardware knowledge. No more of this "I made a todo list in react in 2 weeks and am now ready to be a software engineer" rubbish.

There has been general hate towards self taught and code bootcamp grads. Some are in the field only for the money, but many others simply lacked the resources to attend a 4 year university.

When you openly state that you dislike these types of programmers, and want to essentially purge them? Hopefully AI destroys your specific job and you can’t find work again.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by akhosravian »

pixl97 wrote: post #96
kaashif wrote: post #42

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In the past, when tools that significantly increased developer productivity emerged, like higher level languages (C, Java, Python), better IDEs, or better access to help (e.g. StackOverflow), the demand for more software has outpaced any decrease in demand for developers due to productivity improvements. I'm not saying I know that's going to continue forever, but it might. If the cost to produce software goes down, t…

People in the textile industry were well paid and given a place to live at one point in history. Then the auto loom showed up and they were kicked to the street to starve. I wouldn't want to try to live in any major US city on a blue collar salary.

It’s funny you’re using “blue collar” to mean low skilled probably things like retail cashiers, but folks in trades actually make very livable wages in the US.

Here’s a recent article from the seattle times: https://www.seattletimes.com/pacific-nw-magazine/as-tech-job...

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

golergka wrote: post #41
smilespray wrote: post #24

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How do you get senior people when juniors no longer have careers?

From the real education with courses on compilers, operating systems and databases, not 3 month bootcamps on HTML and JavaScript.

How many compilers, operating systems, and databases have you written?

I make 6 figures, never took any of these classes (though I did write my own OS, and compiler). Why do you want people to waste time and money? Perhaps it’s time to split out those classes into some degree that’s more relevant to that work?

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by pedrosorio »

RedNifre wrote: post #194
antibasilisk wrote: post #83

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My point is that if a machine can write more or less any program, then the artistic merit of programming falls away completely. It's instead replaced by a slurry of incomprehensible nonsense that simply works for some reason.

Yeah, like a binary today, right? What's the problem if the new "source code" is all prompts written in natural language and the classical code is just a build artifact?

There is no way to have all source code in natural language because natural language is ambiguous. There is no way to debug natural language not doing the right thing.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

DrewADesign wrote: post #133
bigbassroller wrote: post #2

I know this tech is terrifying to actual 3D artist who don’t want be a “prompt engineer”, but as someone who has never used Blender, I think its cool that I can create something using tools like this and use them in my projects, ex background animation on a website hero section.

Most people aren't worried about being a prompt engineer-- they're worried about being a Doordash driver if it turns out that one prompt engineer can replace many professional, well-paid people in their industry. That's pretty rational.

Self driving cars and drones are pretty close, door dash driver won’t be an option much longer either.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by tekknik »

DrewADesign wrote: post #244
anonzzzies wrote: post #201

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There is not much to prompt engineer; the obvious trivial thing that is already happening and will make the glorious job of prompt ‘engineer’ completely redundant is AI doing the ‘engineering’ for you. One person (or AI in the future; this is already possible now for humans and gpt though) that the AI has been trained to ‘know’ and work with will blurb things into a mic and the AI will instruct millions of brains to…

I think you drastically underestimate the intellectual component of other people's work behind the tools they use to perform it.

In some industries sure, in many others it’s just mindless repetition. The argument is that AI is to free up their time so they can do more important things. Regardless, less demand means less wages across the board. Those that are intelectuales capable of doing more will look to the higher paying jobs once AI automates theirs away.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by juvvel »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #181
juvvel wrote: post #161

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So any and all commerce just becomes a different form of stock trading? I doubt it. People will still need and want tangible things.

> People will still need and want tangible things. And that matters to who, and why, exactly? Once enough of the economy is automated, there's hardly a reason for it to keep humans in the loop. It can just run in a circle, serving itself. Humans, meanwhile, will just have to barter for scraps amongst themselves.

If we truly live in a world where those in power seek to eliminate all other (non-powerful) humans from the equation, then maybe that's our real problem. For the record, I don't actually believe this is the case. Some people might work toward this goal but I doubt that most powerful people would voluntarily want to give up their influence over the masses. Which is what they'd do if they leave them to fend for themselves while the bots run their businesses. At some point, when you have enough money already, you don't actually seek more money, you seek more influence, and money is just the vehicle. ETA: btw, if a truly autonomous money-making machine is invented, that's just going to cause inflation, making it all worthless.

Re: BlenderGPT: Use commands in English to control Blender with OpenAI's GPT-4

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Post by OOPMan »

elif wrote: post #230
EamonnMR wrote: post #31

"The generated code might not always be correct. In that case, run it again lmao" is the best documentation I've read all week.

I've been building a ChatGPT project this week and this explanation is so true it made me actually lol. Sometimes it's impressively flawless, sometimes it gets stuck in broken patterns... Even if the inputs are identical. "Monkey around with the prompt and pray" has replaced unit testing.

Ooof
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