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Re: Google Bard waitlist

#261

It's at https://bard.google.com - I tried to join the waitlist but this is yet another Google service where Google Workspaces accounts simply don't work. Back to GPT-4 then!

Is it still possible for the average person to access GPT-4?

V4 is baked into Bing Chat. I believe paid OpenAI accounts also have access.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#262

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Non-US countries like to fine US tech companies and create regulations ect. which we are already seeing in the EU wrt AI. So it makes sense why they don't want to be involved in that kind of thing before there is even a real product. That is, there is no upside for them aside from market share, which I agree is important but does not alone explain Google's product failures, about which much has already been written.

Sure. Meanwhile ChatGPT is used everywhere in France, and it's now synonymous with AI for most people in Europe. Game over.

OpenAI has had significant up time issues. They don't seem to know how to run production services. Business cannot rely on them as a foundation to build upon. Their moat is quite thin and dry

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#263

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> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

Same here, and the account switcher doesn't work.

You can add /u/1 or /u/2 to the end of the URL to use another Google Account.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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> This Google Account isn’t supported > Bard does not currently support Google Workspace accounts or when our systems indicate you may be under 18. Learn more Google: 15 years of punishment for being a loyal Dasher/ Google Apps/GSuite/Google Workspace user.

Same here, and the account switcher doesn't work.

At least Google has an account switcher. I’m looking at you, AWS. (I’m currently launching a project on Google Cloud, and I’m picking it over AWS primarily because the AWS console’s account management is so terrible [0]. There are only so many hours in the day, and the whole point of paying a 4-40x markup for the cloud is to reduce workload.)

Not that Google’s account switcher has ever been particularly good.

[0] Not just the console. AWS organizations are sort of okay, but you still need to give every account an email address. Seriously, Amazon? I bet you could invent a new subtype of account called, say, “project”, where a project has a name, does not have an email address, does not have a root non-IAM user, and is only accessed via IAM roles. And I bet you could, with more effort, teach the console to accept a URL prefix that encodes the name of an account and a role and gives a console view with that role assumed without globally assuming that role. And then I could administer a VPC according to current best practices, from the console, without cursing at multi-account containers and needing to correctly type the account and role every time I want to do anything.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

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> Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned! Sigh. Google never learns. By the time they add support for using this in my country, there's no reason for me to use it anymore as competitors have already swept in. It's the same playbook with every US-only launch: 1. get everybody hyped up 2. make it accessible to only a minor subset of people but advertise it as a "launch" or "open beta" or whatever 3.…

AI queries are way more computationally intensive than traditional searches. Bard is probably not optimized and would completely overload the hardware Google has available for it should it be released worldwide.

That just shows how far ahead Microsoft is on that one.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#267

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Not trying to be rude, but when you're a company the size of Google - that's had MASSIVE lawsuits - you can't just willy-nilly release products globally.

This is the kind of bureaucratic thinking that is resulting in Google being incapable of innovation.

Just take the legal risk and launch globally. Yes, some country might have some obscure law about AI chatbots imitating veterans during Ramadan... And if that's the case, then just pay the fine, patch the software, and move on.

Better than have the whole product fail because competitors won the market with a global launch.

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#268

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

This is a very specific HN sentiment. Not sure if the same sentiment is shared by general public

True, but it was the innovator and early adopter community who were originally the first to embrace Google back in the late 90s/early 2000s. Don't want to lose them if at all possible, if only to keep them from migrating to some other cool new thing and building it up.

Re: Google Bard waitlist

#269

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

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Re: Google Bard waitlist

#270

The comments here are very interesting. I see very little about the actual performance of bard (and the few comments that do mention that it's worse than chatgpt because it uses a much smaller model to reduce inference costs). Instead most comments are either about country/workspace account restrictions, googles past history with sunsetting products, or their general lack of product releases in the ml space. Incredib…

This. It doesn't even matter anymore how great the thing is that they sort-of-release. They're dead, the precursors of a giant falling are already there, even though current quarterly earnings don't yet reflect it at all. Wait for it.
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