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Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this idea fail?

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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I know this is about the Amazon Go stores, but there's a "Just Walk Out Shopping" Amazon Fresh store near me. Before I went it sounded like something I would like. But no.

I could give a list of different features I disliked, but in the end, it kind of comes down to the fact that the overall vibe is "The Opposite of Trader Joe's".

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this…

Not exactly the same but very close - Decathlon, a french sports-goods company uses RFID tags on each item to make checkout easier - https://www.decathlon-united.media/media/decathlon-united-rf...

Once you want to checkout, you drop everything you bought into a big bin near the checkout area - it calculates the total based on all RFID tags, you pay, take everything and leave.

Imo this is better than checkout in the carts - don't need to attach a payment POS and carry bags to every single cart lol.

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this…

Decathlon does this (at least in the stores near me). You put the items into a bin at the self-checkout and everything is recognized.

My guess is that that the time savings aren't large enough to offset the cost for stores with lower-cost goods (especially since most time-intensive products in a supermarket are things like produce that needs to be weighed and self-service pastry).

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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post #8

Slightly misleading title. They're closing 8 of their stores across NYC, SF, etc, and this is after they just opened a few more across the US.

That’s a completely misleading title then.

HN removes numbers from titles, as an anti-clickbait tactic, but it leads to errors like this.

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Target has a very impressive security system. There is a uuid on your receipt that can be used to track your movement within the store beginning from when you walked in They also have a top forensic lab that some smaller law enforcement units rely on, and they do it for free! https://corporate.target.com/article/2012/02/an-unexpected-c...

Target's procedure is that they don't bother with small shoplifters, but they track the value of the items stolen. Once you hit the felony limit, they go into action and provide all the evidence to law enforcement.

I don’t think this is true.

In high school my friend was caught and arrested for stealing a bottle of luxury cosmetic shampoo (dumb teenager brain). Not cheap but certainly not felony limit

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

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I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this…

RFID

We have the tech to do this. They library system where I am put RFID tags in all the books. You put the all books you want in a special tray at checkout. (There is still a checkout counter with a machine.) The computer will instantly display all the books you have on the tray. You touch the screen to confirm all the books and it will check them out and print a paper receipt.

They can probably eliminate the checkout too, maybe. I imagine that they do it so that the user (you) can confirm what items the computer thinks they wanted to check out.

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

#269

I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this…

Uniqlo stores are doing this, when you check out, you just put all the stuff you grabbed into a bin and the system will tell you the total price right away.

Re: Amazon is closing its cashierless stores in NYC, San Francisco and Seattle

#270

I vividly recall seeing a feature on TV in the mid 80s where they were discussing future technologies for the year 2000. One of them was the cashier-less store: We'd all put in our grocery items in the carts and then the payment would be automagically calculated, no cashier or manual scanning necessary. They assumed it would be microchip based, the chip embedded in packaging. What ever happened to this? Why did this…

Not exactly the same but very close - Decathlon, a french sports-goods company uses RFID tags on each item to make checkout easier - https://www.decathlon-united.media/media/decathlon-united-rf... Once you want to checkout, you drop everything you bought into a big bin near the checkout area - it calculates the total based on all RFID tags, you pay, take everything and leave. Imo this is better than checkout in the c…

Oh yes!

I do remember doing this as well at Decathlon.

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