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Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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It will become a non-issue once all keyboards have a "ü" button. :) Which might not actually be that long.

Why is everyone focused on the umlaut? If you don’t have the button, use a “u” and move on.

They are completely different letters. You'd be misspelling it.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Well, there are many things in your life that you buy from China that don't have a semiconductor in it. For instance, I was shocked to find out that a lot of "Brazilian" honey was actually rebranded corn syrup imported from China and cut with low-grade Chinese honey, this all to get around U.S. import restrictions due to the lack of quality/safety regulation in China. It's expensive, it's tiring, it's hard. But, in t…

Honey is one of those things where you're best off buying it from a local producer, or not at all.

Totally agree. After spending tons of time trying to find a reputable supplier the answer ended up being either:

1) I need to befriend a local beekeeper 2) I need to pick up beekeeping

You may think, that's too much work but really the honey you're buying at the store stands a really good chance of simply being sugar with only a trace of honey. Not good for you.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Things like text search and exact string matching. As minor as it might sound, if 199/200 countries work in your system, capitalism dictates that below a certain business size, the logical thing is often to just ignore the one country and move on. These things have odd cascading effects.

I have good news for you - text search for non-ascii version of latin characters like ü is a long solved problem. That's because even in non-english speaking countries some people don't bother with diacritics, or they don't have a correct layout at that point, or the text is in source code and has to be ASCII, etc. You can try that now - my browser highlights Türkiye when I search for Turkiye.

Great! Now do a JOIN in a database with Türkiye in one column and Turkiye in another.

It's a problem with well-known solutions. That's not the same as a solved problem.

It will be a solved problem when processing a log file in /var/log with Python (or any other tool of choice), it works automatically.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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> there's an argument to be made that de-globalisation is a sure fire way to global conflict.. You could make that argument, but that is dependent strongly on everybody being rational actors and there is plenty of evidence that dictatorships are not rational actors.

Is the US orchestrating coup after coup all over the globe a desirable rational actor ? The reality is that it will take multiple generations for us to get rid politicians who when zoomed out act like teenage boys, and we can argue all we want.

USA - "Hello, my name is the US of A."

Everybody - "Welcome, US of A."

USA - "Today I haven't orchestrated a coup in (checks paper)[0] ... six years?"

*applause*

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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As a Turk, I do not trust people who are using Turkiye in English. That is virtue signaling which is saying they are populist, nationalist etc. etc. I also find the change idiotic at the least though I understand why they did it.

When working with people of different nationalities and ethnicities I emphasize trying to pronounce their names correctly. Why is this different?

Because it's a nationalistic thing to insist that all languages spell your country's name in the script and spelling of the source language. It's a stupid move by the Erdogan government to get people to stop thinking about türkiye birds when they think of the Turkey country. Other countries get by just fine.

Germany, Alemania, Deutschland.

Mexico, Messico, Méjico.

Japan, Nippon, 日本.

China, Zhōngguó, 中国.

Every country gets by getting called different things in different languages. But Turkey insisting on the spelling just because they don't want to be associated to türkiye birds, where the birds are literally named after the country, is a silly move designed to stir nationalistic pride for their near totalitarian government.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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Starting with you, do you support social media censorship in the United States? And do you support social media censorship by turkey? Those are yes or no questions.

Do you support Elon's censorship of antifa accounts?

Difference between me stopping you from wearing shoes in my house, and me stopping you from wearing shoes in yours.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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As a Turk, I do not trust people who are using Turkiye in English. That is virtue signaling which is saying they are populist, nationalist etc. etc. I also find the change idiotic at the least though I understand why they did it.

When working with people of different nationalities and ethnicities I emphasize trying to pronounce their names correctly. Why is this different?

That's not always the right thing to do.

I'm from a language where you'll never get it right, and most people are pragmatic and don't care about names being the way our mothers do. That's a very Western thing.

Forcing us to try to teach you our language, or half-way butcherings, are considered obnoxious. Go with the English pronunciation. Do anything half-reasonable-sounding, and it's okay too. Don't visibly struggle each time you try to say my name.

For my name specifically, there's also an uncanny valley phenomenon. My name pronounced obviously wrong by an American doesn't raise flags. Americans mispronouncing my native name sounds horribly wrong.

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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These companies are already in the dark deep of hyper partisan censorship. Take reddit for example. Nearly every sub is a left wing echo chamber, with essentially the same comment being made, and opposing viewpoints hidden, shadow-banned, or deleted under the guise of 'disinformation' even if they are factually accurate. Some of it is partly driven by liaisons within US and other governments, and supported by media.…

Except you can start your own subreddit and choose your own moderation policies. The inaccurately named /r/conservative has a lot of traffic and there are many more.

I think some people tried that once…

Re: Twitter restricted in Turkey in aftermath of earthquake

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DDOSing humans rarely benefits the truth. In case of cognitive overload, humans tend to favor the simple answers, not the correct one.

I really don't think that's the case. What makes you think so? In my experience exposure to more viewpoints, even flawed ones, increases understanding and helps critical thinking.

> What makes you think so?

Experience. We've also basically seen in it in the pandemia all over the world happening in the last years. Though, this was a bit of an extreme situation for everyone.

> In my experience exposure to more viewpoints, even flawed ones, increases understanding and helps critical thinking.

Simple exposure is only helpful if the people are able to handle it, and willing to invest the time, and the one delivering it has no bad intention. The ones where it will not work, are left as the victims of this strategy. Maybe they will find their way after a long painful process. But then the harm is done.

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