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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by nemo44x »

moomoo11 wrote: post #233
rayiner wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I love is that institutions like universities will happily link arms with Qatar for the $$$, despite the neo-slavery: https://www.qatar.northwestern.edu . Really puts their woke messaging at home in context.

Lol it’s also every single company ever. Look at the US/Western twitter accounts of major corporations and they’re all rainbows. Then look at their Middle East or other regions twitter accounts.. the only color they care about is green. Everything else is marketing backed by legal. I was selected for a project in a Gulf country and we had a preliminary session where I got an eye opener. Basically, no women or gays, n…

> the only color they care about is green.

As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. If corporate leaders or employees don’t like it then they can spend their free time lobbying or campaigning for politicians that want to change things. Only after the law is changed should the company make a change. Until then, business as usual.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by lupire »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #71
sshine wrote: post #9

https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

The gulf states are modern-day slave societies.

As are the "Western" states; we just mostly keep our slaves in Asia, America, and South America, for efficiency.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by lupire »

danamit wrote: post #105
sshine wrote: post #9

https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

It is not about the Kafala system, since even the West has similar systems. It is that they treat migrant workers that are not highly skilled specially from specific backgrounds bad.

Like Blacks and Mexicans in US?

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by olalonde »

fy20 wrote: post #247
powerapple wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can drink in rooms, bars and restaurants in hotels, home bars in Qatar. Police do check for drunk driving. Haven't seen too many drunk people, but I assume if you are not causing others to complain, you would be fine.

This is how it is in other Gulf countries (if you are not causing anyone to complain it's basically ignored) and honestly I don't see why Western countries are so tolerant. If you are a taxi driver in the US taking drunk people home, and they are talking abusively to you, you pretty much have to just suck it up.

Because talking abusively is not a crime in Western countries, drunk or not. Taxi drivers can refuse to drive such people if they want to.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by spacemanmatt »

rayiner wrote: post #203
sshine wrote: post #9

https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

What I love is that institutions like universities will happily link arms with Qatar for the $$$, despite the neo-slavery: https://www.qatar.northwestern.edu . Really puts their woke messaging at home in context.

Yeah, how stupid are they for trying to be better than the Qatari government. What a bunch of dopes.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by jjulius »

fy20 wrote: post #247
powerapple wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can drink in rooms, bars and restaurants in hotels, home bars in Qatar. Police do check for drunk driving. Haven't seen too many drunk people, but I assume if you are not causing others to complain, you would be fine.

This is how it is in other Gulf countries (if you are not causing anyone to complain it's basically ignored) and honestly I don't see why Western countries are so tolerant. If you are a taxi driver in the US taking drunk people home, and they are talking abusively to you, you pretty much have to just suck it up.

> If you are a taxi driver in the US taking drunk people home, and they are talking abusively to you, you pretty much have to just suck it up.

... no you don't? I've seen taxis refuse rides and/or kick people out, and have even been part of said group kicked out (thanks to other drunks).

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by spacemanmatt »

nemo44x wrote: post #261
moomoo11 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol it’s also every single company ever. Look at the US/Western twitter accounts of major corporations and they’re all rainbows. Then look at their Middle East or other regions twitter accounts.. the only color they care about is green. Everything else is marketing backed by legal. I was selected for a project in a Gulf country and we had a preliminary session where I got an eye opener. Basically, no women or gays, n…

> the only color they care about is green. As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. If corporate leaders or employees don’t like it then they can spend their free time lobbying or campaigning for politicians that want to change things. Only after the law is changed should the company make a change. Until then, business as usual.

> Corporations should not have many opinions

I'm curious where this view comes from. The last time I checked, corporations are composed of people, and people are fraught with opinion.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by lupire »

Raed667 wrote: post #242
DoreenMichele wrote: post #191

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http://nirmukta.com/2011/10/13/misyar-temporary-marriage-in-... A quick Google tells me they probably practice temporary marriage as well but call it something else (and details differ). Anyone actually knowledgeable, please chime in.

In rules of sunni islam, a woman can't get remarried after a divorce for at least 4 and a half months (to wait for unexpected pregnancies to show). Making the practice of "temporary marriage" very impractical.

Are you saying that waiting 5 months between sexual partners is very impractical?

It is quite common around the world, just as a matter of distribution of dating success events.

And of course law enforcement isn't 100% efficient.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by cloutchaser »

jleyank wrote: post #3

This is where ethics and money collide. If you participate, you’re complicit. The players are comfortable enough to say no, and the punters can stick to the local pub or even bite hard and “stay home” entirely - let the advertisers know. Talk it cheap. Actions mean more but both have costs. Willing to pay?

Taking another example - I HIGHLY doubt every single BLM kneeling player actually agrees with it. But they do it because their priority is playing football, and it's better to stay silent and focus on the football.

Which I think is actually fair enough. You might actually destroyed your entire career in this case by taking a principled stand, and you are being forced to participate in something against your will. In the end you are a footballer wanting to play football.

Unfortunately though looking at it from the outside, it starts to really look like an authoritarian ritual that everyone is forced to participate in, like the 30 minute clapping that many dictators get after speeches because everyone is afraid to be the first to stop.

But that doesn't mean the system is good or people actually agree with the dictator.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by wasmitnetzen »

nemo44x wrote: post #261
moomoo11 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol it’s also every single company ever. Look at the US/Western twitter accounts of major corporations and they’re all rainbows. Then look at their Middle East or other regions twitter accounts.. the only color they care about is green. Everything else is marketing backed by legal. I was selected for a project in a Gulf country and we had a preliminary session where I got an eye opener. Basically, no women or gays, n…

> the only color they care about is green. As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. If corporate leaders or employees don’t like it then they can spend their free time lobbying or campaigning for politicians that want to change things. Only after the law is changed should the company make a change. Until then, business as usual.

I respectfully disagree. A company is just a group of people, and thus, it has common goals and opinions, like any other group of people.
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