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One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by jhugo »

l33t2328 wrote: post #35
cmntqatar2022 wrote: post #15

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Why on earth do some people think it’s okay to include USA with countries like Qatar? USA isn’t perfect, but being gay isn’t punishable by jail time here.

> Why on earth do some people think it’s okay to include USA with countries like Qatar?

Of course they're not at all comparable, but it is worth pointing out that Qatar is a very close ally of the US, and that close relationship likely enables some of their behaviour, or at least makes it less likely that they will suffer negative consequences.

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Post by rayiner »

sshine wrote: post #9

https://gctpnews.org/qatar-2022-world-cup-death-toll/ "The name of the current [migrant worker employment] system is kafala, a system forcing all migrants to be sponsored and subsequently tied to an employer. The kafala system has been frequently described as modern day slavery due to its exploitative nature. This employer controls housing, wages, travel, and the well being of each employee." "[...] an estimated 4,00…

What I love is that institutions like universities will happily link arms with Qatar for the $$$, despite the neo-slavery: https://www.qatar.northwestern.edu. Really puts their woke messaging at home in context.

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Post by agent008t »

monkey_monkey wrote: post #169
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #82

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And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

> And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? I wish we would. Possibly the one good thing coming out of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a realization that depending on oil and gas leaves you very vulnerable and that alternative sources of energy must become more common.

There will always be a dependency on resources or products from other countries - especially if we truly respect the rights of self-determination of arbitrarily small nations and city-states. True sovereignty of these states also means that they have the right to not trade with us for any reason, does it not?

There will also always be disagreements on fundamental ethical issues between countries. Even between the states in the US you can see such disagreements.

What we seem to lack is a principle for dealing with such situations. Instead, ad-hoc, inconsistent measures tend to be taken. It seems like if the true principle guiding such decisions were publicly announced, the general public would find it unpalatable. Are we living in willful denial?

Can such a principle then exist, that would both be consistent with our declared values, without compromising our ability to survive and defend ourselves and act according to it?

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Post by someweirdperson »

solar-ice wrote: post #83
everyone wrote: post #6

"public displays of affection are frowned upon regardless of sexual orientation" That, I agree with.

"Frowned on" here is a euphemism for "likely to get you 40 lashes". I'm sure you don't agree with that.

People have sex in semi-public for the excitement of potentially getting caught. Maybe the possibility of lashes creates even more excitement. If that's turning them on who are we to judge? To be fair, that would need consent, "beat us when you catch us", and should not be required by law.

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Post by ignoramous »

tut-urut-utut wrote: post #181
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #82

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And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

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> Everyone else is tolerated...

The sense of entitlement...

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Post by thorowsw4511 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #82
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #71

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The gulf states are modern-day slave societies.

And why don't we in the west sanction them or refuse to trade with them for this practice? Not only that but we're actively supporting these regimes and selling them cutting edge weapons. Why is that? 'checks notes' Oh, right, oil.

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Post by jhugo »

rob74 wrote: post #87

> The Daily Star now reports that there is growing concern from UK law enforcement about the possibility of British fans facing stiff penalties for doing things that they would not think twice about. Do I sound too conservative if I say that it's often a good idea to think twice before having a one-night stand?

The article is about a state punishing people for making a private choice. Whether you think their choice is responsible or not has nothing to do with it.

Re: One-night stands will be illegal at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar

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Post by iamtheworstdev »

sph wrote: post #85
klausjensen wrote: post #64

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Millions and millions of dollars in bribes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_FIFA_corruption_case

It's not only FIFA. Formula 1 loves to drop historical circuits to go race at some intolerant and filthy rich Middle Eastern country. We've dropped Germany and soon France, and got Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain. Saudi Arabia had a dress code guide for fans and media, for instance. Women should refrain from wearing indecent clothes, like short sleeves. https://www.marca.com/en/f1/2021/10/18/616dba0122601dfc398b4...

oh don't forget all of the Americans that just played golf in the Saudi LIV tournament
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