More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ • Hacker News Board

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by mizzack » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

claytongulick wrote: post #215

snowwrestler wrote: post #133

I feel like COVID has become like a marshmallow test for adults, where those who can manage their emotions and make rational decisions can set themselves up for greater long-term rewards. It looked for a while there like this could be a thing that gets “done”—that we would get a good vaccine into enough people, then incidence would decline so far it just goes away. That didn’t happen. We’re stuck with it for a forese…

It's interesting that you phrase it that way, because I was thinking exactly the same thing, but from the opposite direction. I caught covid early, and while (for me) it was a nasty bug, I recovered with nothing more than a lingering cough for several weeks. Against enormous pressure I decided not to get vaccinated. Everything I read supported that natural immunity is at least as protective as the vaccine, and most s…

The free donut test.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by pklausler » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

fallingknife wrote: post #95

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #29

I think the message of "vaxxed and done" is the right way for us to be moving, but I think it's incomplete. To get vaxxed insulates you from the risk of severe disease. It reduces the risk to the point that going out and living life is an acceptable risk, just like any other. However, it doesn't protect you from infecting others. To that end, I think that indoor mask mandates continue to be justifiable and should con…

But anybody who I spread it to and is vaxxed also has minimal, acceptable risk. If they aren't vaxed, that's on them.

If they are eligible for vaccination and choose to refuse it, that's one thing. But there are people who cannot be vaccinated, and I still worry about how my actions might affect them.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

he0001 wrote: post #156

Mikeb85 wrote: post #66

I'm vaxxed and mostly done. Already contracted Covid, have 2 vaccines, I'm down to get a booster every year or two, at my own leisure. Having vaccines mandated every 6 months is not something I'm OK with and to be honest, it feels a lot like the government trying to deflect from the fact healthcare isn't OK (at least in my home country, Canada). There's always been risks to life and this feels more like governments a…

How deadly does a disease have to be for you to feel it’s not worth the risk? 1%, 10%, 50%?

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by Ichthypresbyter » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

jaywalk wrote: post #44

VeninVidiaVicii wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all vaccines, neutralizing antibody titers decrease over time. This is why boosters exist in the first place.

No vaccine has ever had an efficacy dropoff as steep and rapid as the current crop of Covid vaccines.

No vaccine has ever had its efficacy measured in terms of infection detectable by PCR test.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

wonderwonder wrote: post #124

I am one of those, triple vaxxed and done. CDC has now said that the majority of those that died had 4+ co-morbidities. They have also indicated that getting vaccinated does not reduce your ability to spread the virus. So if that is the case, there is no longer a real need to vilify the unvaxxed. CDC statement appears to indicate that the primary reason for people dying is poor physical health prior to infection. Wit…

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:29 PM UTC

celtain wrote: post #181

Mikeb85 wrote: post #66

I'm vaxxed and mostly done. Already contracted Covid, have 2 vaccines, I'm down to get a booster every year or two, at my own leisure. Having vaccines mandated every 6 months is not something I'm OK with and to be honest, it feels a lot like the government trying to deflect from the fact healthcare isn't OK (at least in my home country, Canada). There's always been risks to life and this feels more like governments a…

Why is there much difference between getting a booster every 6 months rather than every 12-24 months? Compared to lockdowns or even just mask mandates, both booster schedules seem like a pretty minor inconvenience given the pandemic-halting benefits.

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by sebow » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:30 PM UTC

Why are we still debating this bullsh1t? This current global crisis has stopped being a healthcare one for a year now [I frankly would say almost 2 years now because until ~april-may 2020 any statement about the virus would have been hard to verify].

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by floren » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:30 PM UTC

wonderwonder wrote: post #124

I am one of those, triple vaxxed and done. CDC has now said that the majority of those that died had 4+ co-morbidities. They have also indicated that getting vaccinated does not reduce your ability to spread the virus. So if that is the case, there is no longer a real need to vilify the unvaxxed. CDC statement appears to indicate that the primary reason for people dying is poor physical health prior to infection. Wit…

> The democratic party has hung their hat on how bad covid is and how important it is to get vaccinated and to state at this point, NVM lets just get back to normal would be a loss of face.

During the recent recall attempt for Gov. Gavin Newsom, the ads supporting him essentially said, "The Republican candidate will remove the mask mandate and kill your grandma. Vote to keep Newsom, he'll keep grandma alive with mask mandates." so yeah I figure it's gonna be a while before California Democrats, at least, can support easing up on the masks.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by dham » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:30 PM UTC

he0001 wrote: post #156

Mikeb85 wrote: post #66

I'm vaxxed and mostly done. Already contracted Covid, have 2 vaccines, I'm down to get a booster every year or two, at my own leisure. Having vaccines mandated every 6 months is not something I'm OK with and to be honest, it feels a lot like the government trying to deflect from the fact healthcare isn't OK (at least in my home country, Canada). There's always been risks to life and this feels more like governments a…

How deadly does a disease have to be for you to feel it’s not worth the risk? 1%, 10%, 50%?

Are you asking because you work in a gain of function lab :D? It's going to be hard for a virus to come from nature that can spread like the Flu and be as deadly as Ebola. The biggest societal threat besides a meteor or nuclear war is gain of function.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by clarge1120 » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:30 PM UTC

wonderwonder wrote: post #124

I am one of those, triple vaxxed and done. CDC has now said that the majority of those that died had 4+ co-morbidities. They have also indicated that getting vaccinated does not reduce your ability to spread the virus. So if that is the case, there is no longer a real need to vilify the unvaxxed. CDC statement appears to indicate that the primary reason for people dying is poor physical health prior to infection. Wit…

It’s time we start moving on with our lives. We’re going to figure out what it takes to live with a new disease, so we may as well do it now. The damage done to the to the general mental health due to the breakdown of personal human networks will exceed the loss of life due to infection with poor physical health.

I, for one, will not go on living in fear like this.