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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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addicted wrote: post #171
grishka wrote: post #128

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Many video players were still using flash. VKontakte still had its flash app/game platform going strong, though you did have the option of using an iframe that loaded a web app from your server instead. Flash support was only discontinued there around several years ago.

There;s a difference between still being around and being an "essential part" of the web. Flash was almost certainly not an essential part of the web. 2012 was 5 years after the iPhone and by then Android and iPhone constituted the majority of web browsing, and neither supported flash at all. You couldn't very well say something was an essential part of the web if it wasnt supported on those devices in 2012.

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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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ACS_Solver wrote: post #47

I want to offer Vivaldi some praise, I switched to it as my main browser a few years ago, and it's been great. I had to look for a new browser when Firefox (that I had used since the Firebird days) kept breaking my settings and plugins with their updates. After yet another Firefox update I wasn't able to restore the browser to how I want it to be, so I tried Vivaldi. I'm not even a big fan of the original Opera, but…

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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by freediver »

kristofferR wrote: post #173
todd3834 wrote: post #166

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Is Safari an option for you? (Mac?)

Safari is about the least dev friendly browser there is. Their API support is atrocious, especially for web extensions.

Perhaps Orion will be of interest to you (WebKit fork with web extensions support, I am the founder)

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by mrtweetyhack »

oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

Opera is owned by China

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by Seirdy »

kjakm wrote: post #99
ACS_Solver wrote: post #47

I want to offer Vivaldi some praise, I switched to it as my main browser a few years ago, and it's been great. I had to look for a new browser when Firefox (that I had used since the Firebird days) kept breaking my settings and plugins with their updates. After yet another Firefox update I wasn't able to restore the browser to how I want it to be, so I tried Vivaldi. I'm not even a big fan of the original Opera, but…

I hadn't even thought of tab tiling as a feature I might need until now. Just took a look and seems incredibly useful!

If you want tabs and tiling in every program, you should give a tiling WM like Sway or i3 a try ;).

We've had tabs, tiles, tabs of tiled grids, grids of tabbed groups, floating tab groups of grid layouts, etc. for a long time. It's interesting to watch apps re-invent these window managers in different ways.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by Seirdy »

Renaud wrote: post #108

I switched to Vivaldi from Chrome earlier this year as I was uncomfortable with the level of Google integration in that browser. Vivaldi is based on Chromium and has lots of improvements over Chrome, like gestures out of the box, side panels, lots of clear options. And Chrome extensions work perfectly. I've had no issues so far. The complexity of managing a browser engine that does what everyone expects requires humo…

If you want Chromium sans Google, Ungoogled-Chromium or any QtWebEngine-based browser should work much better.

Ungoogled-Chromium is what I use when I want to use a feature in Chromium Devtools that isn't available in FF, or when I just beed to test my site in Blink.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by Seirdy »

timwis wrote: post #200

Doesn't backing a chromium-based browser like Vivaldi or Brave push the industry further toward browser monopoly? (or at least in the rendering engine sense, as we once had with IE)

If you want to use a different engine, there's a plethora of Webkit2gtk-based browsers to choose from. GNOME Web (aka Epiphany) and Eolie are two good options for a basic experience; vimb, Luakit, and Nyxt are more advanced options.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by timwis »

Seirdy wrote: post #267
timwis wrote: post #200

Doesn't backing a chromium-based browser like Vivaldi or Brave push the industry further toward browser monopoly? (or at least in the rendering engine sense, as we once had with IE)

If you want to use a different engine, there's a plethora of Webkit2gtk-based browsers to choose from. GNOME Web (aka Epiphany) and Eolie are two good options for a basic experience; vimb, Luakit, and Nyxt are more advanced options.

I mean I just use Firefox. Unless you mean you can use those engines within Vivaldi?

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by eitland »

jamespo wrote: post #185
CaptainZapp wrote: post #176

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What's wrong with Firefox? It's an honest question, since as a user I really love it. Is it the 'dev-friendly', which Firefox lacks?

There are salty power users of the old insecure XUL based plugins who can't let their deprecation go.

Still a Firefox user. There is really no alternative for me that don't drive me crazy.

That said:

I'm not salty because they replaced XUL but because they mostly gutted it without replacement.

I'm salty because they pretend we are a community whenever they want donations but write as if we are enemies when we try to ask very nicely about something that is missing and has been missing for years.

I'm also salty because they really haven't been clear about donations not going to browser work but to all kinds of niche projects.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by kristofferR »

freediver wrote: post #263
kristofferR wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari is about the least dev friendly browser there is. Their API support is atrocious, especially for web extensions.

Perhaps Orion will be of interest to you (WebKit fork with web extensions support, I am the founder)

Really interesting project, will check it out!
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