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Intel Core I7-11700K Review: Blasting Off with Rocket Lake

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Post by effie »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #236
effie wrote: post #176

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Where is big money to be made, in laptops and desktops, or in overpriced phones?

You're probably right, but the Android market has it's marketplace pressures just like PC, and while I don't know the margins, I imagine Apple is making good margins on Macs. It seems there IS a market for high end androids, but not for PCs, which really is an indictment of mainly Windows but also desktop Linux.

> really is an indictment of mainly Windows but also desktop Linux.

I think it is more about the market size. Only a small part of population needs or wants PCs at all, so the base for marketing the high end is limited. But almost everybody needs a phone, so the base for marketing of pricey phones is many times bigger.

Re: Intel Core I7-11700K Review: Blasting Off with Rocket Lake

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Post by brokenmachine »

lupire wrote: post #251
daniel-thompson wrote: post #218

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Maybe I'm missing it, but Intel doesn't seem to be listed among the members? https://contentauthenticity.org/our-members I agree that the project sounds like garbage.

What's wrong being able to sign a document?

Nothing.

The problem comes when it's built into the hardware so you are forced to sign all documents.

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Post by fomine3 »

cronix wrote: post #237
guardiangod wrote: post #157

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Exactly. In 2020 the 10400f was about 40% more expensive; now Intel is forced to lower the price of their entire lineup to compete against AMD. These days, at most performance tiers, Intel+mobo combo are slightly cheaper than AMD's equivalent. Of course, Intel's CPUs have less PCIE lanes, no ECC support, lessor upgrade path, generates more heat, etc. Finally my old desktop was Intel and I am working on a lot of kerne…

> These days, at most performance tiers, Intel+mobo combo are slightly cheaper than AMD's equivalent. > Of course, Intel's CPUs have [...] lessor upgrade path One big + for AMD is their socket system, and keeping it the same for multiple generations via a roadmap so people can plan. Contrast that with intel, who comes up with a new socket every generation forcing you to buy a new motherboard and likely new ram if you…

Generally true but Ryzen 5000 series is expected to last gen runs on AM4 platform due to DDR5 is coming.

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Post by encryptluks2 »

effie wrote: post #174
encryptluks2 wrote: post #81

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Price is the biggest factor. You can get 10 cores with Intel for cheaper than 8 with AMD, plus with Intel you get integrated graphics as well which is really important right now considering the GPU shortage. Also, Intel allows virtual GPUs for virtualization in QEMU which AMD won't do.

> Intel allows virtual GPUs for virtualization in QEMU which AMD won't do. What is the level of capabilities we can expect from this? How many simultaneous VMs can use the Intel GPU?

I'd expect similar capabilities to the host GPU. In terms of how many virtual GPUs can you use with acceleration, unless you're trying to run graphics-intensive tasks on multiple VMs then you're mostly limited by your RAM. Here is more information for the Intel UHD 630:

https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/uhd_graphics/630

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