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Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

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"pedo guy" was the thing that broke the camel's back for me. When you have millions of followers and billions of airtime on you, it's absolutely inexcusable to call a random guy a pedo. When he did that my view of him went from a "fake it till you make it" type, to a dishonest and malicious person.

> When you have millions of followers and billions of airtime on you, it's absolutely inexcusable to call a random guy a pedo. The comment from Musk was inexcusable but it didn't come out of nowhere. Elon Musk offered help and Mr Unsworth decided not to use it. In a TV interview, he further labelled it a "PR stunt" and suggested that Musk could "stick his submarine where it hurts". That led Musk to respond with the "…

"I didn't like what he said" isn't a legal defense to defamation.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

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Tesla and all other world wide companies hold a variety of currencies for several reasons. They have Euros but not because they think that the Euro is superior to the Dollar. It allows them to run gigafactory Berlin and customer transactions in the local currency.

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CoinShares research shows at least 78% of Bitcoin mining uses renewable energy! Making Bitcoin mining greener than almost every other large-scale industry in the world. (In addition to this, the energy is not "wasted")

https://coinshares.com/research/bitcoin-mining-network-decem...

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Cryptocurrency is a blind spot where Hacker News’ normal optimism towards innovation has disappointed for a decade. May this thread be one we can reference years later as another example of “our collective opinions can be very wrong about technologies that were transformative in hindsight.” Innovators, follow regulations and go for it. Don’t let the HN crowd get you down. Few of these commenters have ever been unbank…

What exactly is the bull case for bitcoin? I have not seen it clearly explained. I’ve got an open mind. In more specific terms you mentioned the unbanked. How does crypto solve the problems that leave them unbanked?

Why has gold prevailed over thousands of years while almost all fiat currencies went to 0?

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Then can Etherium 2.0 get some love?

“Hey there, you love the rich getting richer and a perpetual level of Uber rich controlling the financial system that is unbreakable? Then you’re going to love proof of stake.”

Why is that? The consensus mechanism only prevents a 51% attack?

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In a way, buying Bitcoin is a bet on the timing of quantum computing.

You can use bitcoin without being vulnerable to quantum computing attacks, you simply have to never sign a transaction from the same address more than once (which is already considered a best practise for privacy)

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Yep. GME, SPACs, creative accounting, prices disconnected from earnings. There are so many signs now that we’re living through a bubble, and it may get much worse before it implodes.

The issue is there is so much money to be made in a bubble if you can just get out right at the end -- that unfortunately encourages these things. It is hard to wait on the sidelines while everyone else gets rich -- no doubt there are fortunes to be made in the lead up to the end of the bubble.

Or more succinctly: FOMO is what creates bubbles

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

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This really seems like yet another failure in governence. There doesn't seem to be any good reason for a car company to be investing in crypto currency other than their CEO's personal interest in the technology. If you have something productive to do with the money, invest it in your business. If you do want to keep money on hand for investments, investing in such exotic instruments seems weird, you want something reasonably hedged and low risk so that you can invest in the future. Otherwise why not just let Musk set up his own crypto holding company?

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Legitimizing Bitcoin more than offsets the environmental benefits of electric vehicles.

What percent of the electricity used by Bitcoin miners is generated by fossil fuels? My impression is that most miners are located to take advantage of locales with very cheap hydroelectric/geothermal or take advantage of subsidized/overbuilt renewables. But I could be wrong. Any data on this?

https://coinshares.com/research/bitcoin-mining-network-decem...

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The issue with Tesla & Elon Musk is that he has a powerful reality distortion ability just like Steve Jobs did. He wills things to happen by force of personality and by believing it so, he convinces others to join him in making these things reality, which then becomes reality. He makes things become true by claiming them to be real before they are. This is not normal and rare to be so talented in that aspect. Hard to…

The issue with Elon Musk is that he has a lot of money and applies it to all kinds of bullshit. He doesn't have a reality distortion field. His fans have one. They think this guy is smart. Read his Twitter and name three smart things he wrote. I can't find a single one.

Is calling someone "the pedo guy" count?
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