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Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

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Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#122

I don't understand all the Crypto hate on this site. Since when have hackers become the luddites to new ways of finance?

It's more proof of work hate.

Then can Etherium 2.0 get some love?

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#123

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Surely it's 1.5B USD dollars worth of BTC, being roughly ~39k BTC

More like 150k. You don't pay anywhere near retail when you buy in that quantity.

A 75% discount? I'd bet less, in the 20-30% range.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#124
post #76

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The Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index gives a much higher estimate (78 TWh vs. 117 TWh), which makes it about the same as the annual electricity usage of United Arab Emirates (pop. 9.9 million). https://www.cbeci.org/

Tesla should have waited 3 more years until the next halvening.

That doesn't change anything in energy usage, and shows how you fundamentally don't understand how it works.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#125
post #3

Legitimizing Bitcoin more than offsets the environmental benefits of electric vehicles.

I think at a certain point, the only profitable way to mine BTC will be with energy that was going to be wasted anyway.

That's only the case if the Bitcoin price is low. Each block gives the miner a certain amount of Bitcoin, so it's only profitable to mine Bitcoin if the cost of the energy used to mine that block is lower than the price of the Bitcoin the miner received. The higher the price of Bitcoin, the higher can the cost of the energy be before it's no longer profitable.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#127

I don't understand all the Crypto hate on this site. Since when have hackers become the luddites to new ways of finance?

Cryptos are purely a speculation vessel, they don't fix many of the problems they claim to fix and add tons of problems over other currencies

I'm fine with cryptos as long as they're not pitched as something they're not

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#128
post #14

Now all ransomware "hackers" will be able to easily buy Teslas, a nice incentive for people to get into that business.

given the amount of regulatory gates you must pass through to purchase a car (license, registration etc), I doubt that criminals are going to use Bitcoin payments for criminal services to purchase a car.

They are far more likely to convert to fiat currency and then purchase the car.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#129
post #115

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All EV's are worse for the environment than buying a used Petrol car.

Highly likely a used petrol car will be bought by someone even if not by you personally, so not a fair assessment. A fair assessment would be a new BEV versus a new petrol versus a new diesel versus a new hybrid.

Also possible that if you buy the used petrol car then the someone else who would have bought it will buy a new one instead, ultimately stimulating the production of more new petrol cars.

Re: Tesla buys $1.5B in Bitcoin, may accept it as payment in the future

#130
post #51

This is going to be one of those events that everyone points back to after the crash to show we had reached peak bubble. Like AOL buying Time Warner etc.

I get similar vibes from these events, even though I am a cryptocurrency optimist (including Bitcoin).

Is an optimist one that thinks it will stay around, or one that thinks it will go away?
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