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For me, that was ROS (in Robotics). Some people I worked with had issues with Anaconda. I miss Arch though, I learned a lot about Linux through it, but every hour spent fixing something is an hour less spent on actual work.

What do you use now?

LTS Ubuntu with a window manager I learned when using Arch (bspwm)

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Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is currently super popular for servers. Any thoughts on whether 20.04 is a worthy upgrade for servers, or just a pain? Snaps in particular sound good for desktops but not servers.

There are definitely snaps that are useful on servers, like LXD and Nextcloud.

Having them auto update and restart daemon services are not good for servers though.

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Me too, but I'm staying on 18 for now because 20 breaks my workflows.

I'm planning to upgrade so you have my attention. What did 20 change to break your workflow?

Replacing the chromium apt with an empty package installing a random self-updating snap. In other words, pinning a specific chromium version, for example for selenium automation, is now broken.

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I'm actually quite happy with my Ubuntu 18 based homemade docker image. And lucky for me, 18 still has some years of support ahead of it. It's just that I know that I cannot update it to Ubuntu 20 without snap breaking things for me.

If you ever want to switch, the image is `selenium/standalone-chrome`.

Thanks for the hint :)

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I personally don't packaging apps in a sandbox, its a violation of the basic idea of writing tools that do one thing well. Still, snap gets lots of flack, but I don't see the same for flatpak. Is there some advantage to flatpak that I am missing, or is it just than Ubuntu has pushed snaps too hard?

One MAJOR downside of Snap is that the server-side component is closed-source. You cannot host your own Snap repository. With Flatpak, you can.

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This is a bug that is being worked on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1616650

Opened 2016. Ouch.

If you're still interested, I found the link: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/wip-refresh-app-awareness/10736 and https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/projects/3

It is actively being worked on.

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What's wrong with either of Fedora or Debian?

Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use. Fedora updates to a new version every 6 months. Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software. Example rolling out pulseaudio when it didn't work well. One version I recall went from acceptable font rendering to…

> Centos is too slow moving to be suitable for desktop use.

Depends on what you need. CentOS Stream is rolling release.

> Updates in place have historically been less than awesome and it adopts new tech before it is ready with no practical way to run either the old version of fedora or the old version of the software.

There's Modularity for different software versions.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/

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What distro? I use Ubuntu because I just want an OS, not a hobby.

No one has suggested openSUSE so I'll go ahead and do that. Mature, stable and great-looking (with KDE). Been using it for years, including one installation of their rolling release, Tumbleweed, which is surprisingly stable for a bleeding edge distro.

For some AMD hardware openSUSE has been more stable for me than Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora. And off course the best KDE support of the bunch is also a plus.
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