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Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

dragonwriter wrote: post #188
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #146

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Also, "my data is handled by a company under the EU law" is quite a good sale pitch these days.

> Also, "my data is handled by a company under the EU law" is quite a good sale pitch these days. Everyone operating in the EU is under EU law, including Amazon, so it's certainly not a competitive pitch vs. Amazon, however much it might be on a checklist of things customers are looking for.

In opposition to the rules from the American authorities, which begets things like PRISM.

Also, it's a matter of culture, the native law context of a company drives a lot of the things they do internally.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by collyw »

StavrosK wrote: post #204
ido wrote: post #183

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This is very old-fashioned & I guess geographically dependent: we used to live in Vienna where you'd expect to use Sie (formal) with any adult you don't personally know where as we now live in Berlin where everyone uses du (informal). Either way nobody who isn't an asshole will get a non-native speaker in trouble for mixing these up & even in Austria my experience was that they will just be a bit perplexed but contin…

It was a bit surprising to me to see that in Spain you only use the formal plural with much older people, if then, whereas in Greece you'd use it with any stranger that wasn't about your age AND you had some rapport with. I guess I expected cultures to be similar in who gets the polite treatment, but they're really not.

Latin American Spainsh seems to be a bit more formal and "old fashioned", but varies a lot from country to country.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by icebraining »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #111

For some time now I think why Hetzner is that weak? We've used them in my last Startup and their cloud offering was fine (price, quality), but to use them one would need loadbalancers and managed Postgres and some caching We managed that on our own but it felt unnecessary. AWS has a lot of bells and whistles not every one needs, but there is a set of tools you need to operate a website. I currently use DO who are ver…

Not everyone needs to compete in the same market. There are some EU providers moving in that direction (e.g. OVH now offers managed Kubernetes, block storage, load balancers, etc), but Hetzner is very useful if you don't need that stuff.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by C1sc0cat »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #237
neuronic wrote: post #205

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Because the person doesn't know what they are talking about. Germans will never prefer Amazon over known local stores - it's already enough to be an American company these days. People know what that means and they don't want it. Wal-Mart completely crashed and burned in Germany and it already started at the weird greeting person at the entry. When Germans see this, the business is basically already bust. Keep the fa…

It's true, as an American here in Munich, buying too many groceries at once is anxiety-inducing. I have to limit how much I buy at once, because otherwise it's too much to fit on the conveyor belt, such that I have to wait for items to be scanned so that I can put more things on. Which leads to not being fast though putting things back in the cart (so that I can bag separately later), which pisses everyone off. I app…

So there are not enough lanes open then (sounds like poor time and motion work) and just how much stuff are you buying that you cant fit it on the belt?

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Post by yread »

wastedhours wrote: post #234
yread wrote: post #231

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Tu vs vous. Slavic languages (OP says Eastern Europe) use 2nd person plural for formal 'you' as well

Yeah, I was assuming Romanian with tu as the informal, and voi for the formal.

Oh, sorry, I assumed you had a typo in the French.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by Torwald »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #165
Torwald wrote: post #156

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This is much bigger than your comment makes it out to be. There used to be a real IT industry in Ger. We had Siemens-Nixdorf as a very decent global player. We had Commodore producing their PCs in Braunschweig. Now all that's left is the relative newcomer SAP.

The tech industry you are referring to(SiemensNixdorf/Commodore) was mostly consumer hardware and has along with the likes of Nokia, Motorola and Sony Ericsson long moved to Asia or disappeared all together as margins are thin in that business and cost of labor is too high in Germany. Consumer focused software is where the big money is now an that is unfortunately a huge vacuum in the German tech sector.

> The tech industry you are referring to(SiemensNixdorf/Commodore) was mostly consumer hardware

Both Siemens and Nixdorf build mainframes. Later Siemens had it's own version of DOS. Most Commodore PCs were used in office environments. I am not referring to 8bit machines nor Amigas.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by icebraining »

turnipla wrote: post #124
bflesch wrote: post #116

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That's the thing I tried to point out in my original comment: They don't embrace automation because it will 100% lower prices in the whole industry. In the German market, ALDI/LIDL/REWE currently have a healthy oligopoly. Why destroy end user prices and your own margins by automating? Amazon is not directly attacking their store-focused model because for the billions needed in investment to reach the automation neede…

How does this make sense? Automation lowers prices, not margins. The prices go down because you don’t have to pay people. If it costs the same, you don’t lower prices just because you’re using automation.

That's in the long term; in the short term the investment does lower margins.

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by C1sc0cat »

lowercased wrote: post #240

Someone else mentioned 'hubris' here. We had a Lidl open up near us 2 years ago (in the US) - generally good store with good prices. Nice size. We were looking forward to more. We saw where they'd opened some of their stores, and couldn't figure out the justification - some locations just seemed odd. Read a few months later that they were 'scaling back' US development, and new build stores would be about half the siz…

That's Lidl's MO they don't commit to having a consistent product line

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

fock wrote: post #257
niwork wrote: post #219

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What about starting salaries, salaries at 2 years, 5 years etc.?

in Munich: starting salaries with a masters are 55-60k€ (before tax!) at average car related companies (even for non-CS-grads doing SWE with a physics/math background), 60-70k€ at the actual car companies. Social sciences/other jobs with masters: 42-50k€, below that with a bachelors/apprenticeship. Independent of the education in IT you should be able to reach 50k after 5 years (excluding grunt work) and 80k with a m…

Why can't non Germans get hired at those salaries in car or electronics companies?

Re: Lidl to Launch Rival to AWS

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Post by why_only_15 »

exdsq wrote: post #221
zerr wrote: post #209

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Why? Go get a remote job and triple the salary, to start with. Of course don't mention your current one. Seriously, go scan HN Who Is Hiring thread for remote jobs - for US or Swiss companies, don't bill below six-figure. For German companies, aim high five-figure. Do it now.

Does that really work? What sort of experience levels are you talking about?

I have one year of experience at a FAANG and i posted on the HN "who is looking for a job" thread and got an email from a company.
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