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Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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There's already a comment here, and I've also personally experienced just from talking with others offline, that a lot of people don't even know VSCode had telemetry, despite it mentioned several times in the product itself and its documentation. They (and remember, these people are supposedly developers ) either ignored it, or just didn't read the docs. I guess a big WARNING banner might scare users away, but it's s…

Most people don't even know Chrome is reading their entire hard drive, thanks to software_reporter_tool.exe . I didn't know until I saw it myself. Maybe I forgot some announcement, but I don't need Chrome to role play as an antivirus.

Can you please explain in details?

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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post #236

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Most people don't even know Chrome is reading their entire hard drive, thanks to software_reporter_tool.exe . I didn't know until I saw it myself. Maybe I forgot some announcement, but I don't need Chrome to role play as an antivirus.

Can you please explain in details?

Sure. I think all the info you need is in this screenshot [0].

According to "Matt" [1], It scans the folders related to Chrome. Please do not worry as your data wouldn't be effected by the clean up tool. .. I think reality speaks for itself. My Steam Library just isn't related to Chrome.

[0] https://imgur.com/QtcSXY9

[1] https://support.google.com/chrome/forum/AAAAP1KN0B0T8qnffV5g...

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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There's already a comment here, and I've also personally experienced just from talking with others offline, that a lot of people don't even know VSCode had telemetry, despite it mentioned several times in the product itself and its documentation. They (and remember, these people are supposedly developers ) either ignored it, or just didn't read the docs. I guess a big WARNING banner might scare users away, but it's s…

Off topic but from a podcast I was listening to recently: your most valuable asset is your team, not your code. This is evidenced by exits - without the team the codebase ain’t worth much.

For stealing/running the service, sure. But they find an exploit

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

#264
post #33

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Less effectively and at greater expense (with regards to understanding how large swathes of your userbase use your software in practice)

There is NO telemetry in Linux (the kernel) and may other great software. I'm sorry but "less effectively" and "greater expense" is just your opinion

> I'm sorry but "less effectively" and "greater expense" is just your opinion

No need to be sorry, it is pretty obvious that it is my opinion, since I made no attempt to support the statement, that is all it could be. That said, it would have been more polite to ask me why I believe what I wrote rather than being dismissive.

> "less effectively" ... "greater expense"

I feel that in order for me to provide satisfactory support of my claim to you, we'll have to first agree upon a strict definition of these terms. You're right to call them out in quotes as my use of them was intended to be qualitative and informal. How about more "effective" development being development that is more focused on serving the needs of its users & the goals of its developers, and "expense" include direct monetary cost, manpower, and any other resources whose use incurs an opportunity cost?

> There is NO telemetry in Linux (the kernel) and many other great software.

1. As I mentioned above, my comment was informal. It was not intended to make a strong claim about all software, without exception.

2. Unless a majority of pre-internet software was developed as effectively and cheaply as Linux and the other software you were thinking of, it is possible that my claim is still correct in the general case.

3. Software used primarily by those who actively contribute to it (such as Linux during its early development) has a very different communication dynamic from other software.

4. Linux is not representative of software developed pre-internet, considering the project was first announced by Linus in the comp.os.minix newsgroup in 1992[1]

* To be clear, any additional claims I have made above are _also_ my opinion.

[1] https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~awb/linux.history.html

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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VSCode initializes the module they use to collect telemetry (Application Insights / A.I.) even if you disable that setting [1]. 1. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/63404

They explicitly created a tech debt issue to fix that, seem reasonable to me?

Been open for 5 months though. Doesn’t look that privacy is high up on their priority list.
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