iOS 12 released • Hacker News Board

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by threeseed » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

rhexs wrote: post #48

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

My guess is that Apple is positioning themselves for an inevitable future where privacy is taken a bit more seriously or at least legislated against. While this seems far fetched right now in the United States with the Google ad monopoly, I think it will eventually come after some form of catastrophic leak (from some user data harvesting conglomerate) involving politicians or other powerful figures. Build the trust n…

You have to remember Apple is a global company.

And there are journalists being locked up for allegedly compromising state secrets e.g. Myanmar, Cambodia. Dissidents being rounded up and jailed. You have Russia going after former spies and anyone criticising the government.

People are literally dying every day because of a true lack of privacy.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by chatmasta » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:04 PM UTC

Rjevski wrote: post #32

kyrra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

Can’t you just select US sad your country when setting up the iCloud account and use a VPN? Or are Chinese devices different at the hardware level and only allow connecting to the Chinese (compromised) iCloud?

You need a payment method with a billing address in the country.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by Jnr » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:11 PM UTC

ljm wrote: post #171

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Provided this position is 100% genuine (and by all accounts, there is no clear indication that it isn't), that it comes from Apple gives the pro-privacy stance a hell of a lot of clout. If a company like Apple is investing in privacy then the consumer must assume that privacy has a lot more value than the government insists, no? For those who are security conscious it's a great reason to get an iPhone over an Android…

I had used Android Nexus devices starting from Nexus S up to 6P and finally switched to iPhone 8 this year.

Android has better UX and has some nice features but there are no real privacy settings, Android apps have no proper inspection before being released on the market and too frequently some 0day RCE exploits are released publicly for Android.

Privacy features were the biggest reason I switched and even though it is not as convenient to use it, I'm going to stick with it for the foreseeable future.

Oh, and the hardware build quality "feel" seems much much better than any Android phone I have held as well.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by blattimwind » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

blattimwind wrote: post #145

Can you now finally toggle location data in the control center?

Nope.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by nkkollaw » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:14 PM UTC

h1d wrote: post #257

nkkollaw wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a lond time, but I read that you can add specific suffixes to folder names to control syncing. I think it was ".nosync" and ".tmp"

Not sure what kind of dumb method this is. You can't possibly change a project's folder name just because of your need. At least if it was by creating an empty file with that name. Also iCloud Drive's synching has been an utter mess and I gave up after nothing syncs at random times.

> Not sure what kind of dumb method this is

That's not very nice. I'm just trying to help and that seems to be the only thing that seems to be working.

I don't work at Apple, so...

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by sctb » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:18 PM UTC

zoltaan wrote: post #181

jen729w wrote: post #148

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“Shoving it down your throat” would mean that you had no choice but to install it. You do have a choice. Just ignore the red dot. It’s not that hard. Although why you’d want to is beyond me. We’ve been saying this here since iOS was a thing. People didn’t want to go from 6 to 7, or 7 to 8, and now 11 to 12. And yet, here we all are.

In case you really do not understand please google 'disable ios update notifications' (note the hit count), or alike. (you must have limited experience in iOS despite of your long time exposure)

Please don't be personally thorny towards other users.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by rcarmo » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:19 PM UTC

knolan wrote: post #240

rcarmo wrote: post #196

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I lost most of my publishing shortcuts, which was expected, but lost the complication in the Apple Watch and its button launcher, which was critical for my commutes...

They added the ability to record a custom Siri command to trigger a workflow, perhaps that might help.

No, they also broke all forms of watch input. There is zero UI for shortcuts on the watch, so I can’t tap a complication and use a simple menu to fetch ETAs for public transit anymore.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by zimmund » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:21 PM UTC

babl-yc wrote: post #58

This the most stable iOS beta I've ever used. It's exciting to see Apple focus on quality, even if the marketing page doesn't end up as flashy.

I had a different experience: after some updates, around build 7 or 8 I lost cellular connectivity completely. It said there wasn't carrier data available and that I should update. To update, I needed to verify the download... which failed because it didn't have access to the modem/carrier data, even though wifi should have been enough. Long story short, I had to do a restore from iTunes (another nightmare for me -Linux user-), and after that discover that my backup "wasn't compatible" (fortunately I had made a manual backup of my photos and other content, but all the settings got lost). I've been using iOS for a year now and I definitely miss Android, even if it isn't as polished as iOS.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:21 PM UTC

kyrra wrote: post #26

kbos87 wrote: post #20

“Apple believes privacy is a fundamental human right, which is why iOS has always been designed with built-in encryption, on-device intelligence, and other tools that let you share what you want on your terms.” It isn’t often that you see any company the size of Apple take that strong of a stance. Privacy is their best feature and it seems like they are doubling down.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

I have Apple and Android phones.

I have a specific google account for my Android phones specifically because you can’t do anything on an Android without logging in. iPhones still work as phones just without cloud storage.

Re: iOS 12 released

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman » Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 10:23 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #75

kyrra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Though I believe Apple bowed to China to give them access to Chinese citizen's iCloud data. But you can operate an iPhone without iCloud fairly easily, which is definitely nice. Doing more on-device helps them here. https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

Which is why I have been crying for an iOS Time Capsule. I don't want to touch iTunes and do computer backup, that is like a very geeky way do it and most people in China don't even have Laptop or Desktop. If they can make Dual Sim and other features targeting the Chinese market; Apple's second biggest market, why cant they make Time Capsule specifically for China. ( Making it China only will likely piss off the Chin…

My parents barely touch a computer and I haven’t backed up in ages.

I would immediately buy 3 if these.