Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you sure it wasn't also overbooked? They pulled passengers to fly crew, but that doesn't mean it wasn't overbooked.
They claimed it was overbooked but that has not been substantiated with any evidence other than the company making that claim and using it to pre-empt those passengers in favor of their dead-headers. The proof that they are bullshitting is that the passengers were already on board when suddenly the plane was declared overbooked. Which to me sounds like UA using an excuse to bump passengers off a flight they are alrea…
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Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#262The main threads on Reddit were deleted also: https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/64jbfq/1458098779... Many more: https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/
Do people even make a cursory effort to verify these accusations before repeating them?
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#263The real outrage in the airline industry is the fact that we allowed security theatre in the form of TSA to get so damn powerful in the first place. There is no reason to be allowing naked x-ray vision scans, pat downs that border on or actually are assault, etc. As Bruce Schneier said, the one thing they did right after 9/11 was to make the cock-pit doors reinforced and locked from the inside. Do you think rich peop…
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
They claimed it was overbooked but that has not been substantiated with any evidence other than the company making that claim and using it to pre-empt those passengers in favor of their dead-headers. The proof that they are bullshitting is that the passengers were already on board when suddenly the plane was declared overbooked. Which to me sounds like UA using an excuse to bump passengers off a flight they are alrea…
That's exactly what they did. Someone up the chain made a mistake. Other airlines board must-ride passengers (i.e. crew deadheading to the next destination) before passengers, but this did not happen. Due to FAA regulations, the movement and sleep requirements of crew is enforced big time. In this case, they had a higher priority than a full-fare passenger (Must Ride), and even though it's morally wrong, it is well w…
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
They claimed it was overbooked but that has not been substantiated with any evidence other than the company making that claim and using it to pre-empt those passengers in favor of their dead-headers. The proof that they are bullshitting is that the passengers were already on board when suddenly the plane was declared overbooked. Which to me sounds like UA using an excuse to bump passengers off a flight they are alrea…
That's exactly what they did. Someone up the chain made a mistake. Other airlines board must-ride passengers (i.e. crew deadheading to the next destination) before passengers, but this did not happen. Due to FAA regulations, the movement and sleep requirements of crew is enforced big time. In this case, they had a higher priority than a full-fare passenger (Must Ride), and even though it's morally wrong, it is well w…
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Seems like we are going full steam into a dystopian society Gonna have to roll my eyes pretty hard at this. These are privately owned servers, they can delete whatever content they want off of them, if you don't like it, you're totally free to host your own server and content.
So what alternative do you propose? 99% of users are on those platforms. Moving everyone to a different platform is almost impossible.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2007/feb/08/business....
"In social networking, there is a huge advantage to have scale. You can find almost anyone on MySpace and the more time that has been invested in the site, the more locked in people are".
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#267Surprised that people here are taking this at face value. Why would Twitter remove these tweets from random users while leaving the vast majority of negative tweets in place? No proof has been given. Indeed, this Jay Beecher's allegedly deleted tweet is visible as far as I can tell: https://mobile.twitter.com/dancow/status/851808188567388161 edit: To be fair, Beecher says that my tweet refers to tweets he sent out af…
My tweet from last night is gone. It's not "alleged".
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#268The real outrage in the airline industry is the fact that we allowed security theatre in the form of TSA to get so damn powerful in the first place. There is no reason to be allowing naked x-ray vision scans, pat downs that border on or actually are assault, etc. As Bruce Schneier said, the one thing they did right after 9/11 was to make the cock-pit doors reinforced and locked from the inside. Do you think rich peop…
>(Of course, the real terrorists are the bankers and financiers) You lost me at this point. That's hateful populist rhetoric.
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure I agree it is just a claim. But they overbook most flights, so it isn't really hard to believe. They could have paid some other passengers already to not board, prior to deciding that they wanted to fly the crew and needing to pull more passengers. That leaves the overbooking claim as misdirection, which isn't any better than a lie that they were overbooked, but it's a different situation. (sorry about the edit…
If it was overbooked those excess passengers weren't on the plane. United wanted to fly 4 of their own employees (who showed up after everyone was boarded and seated) and "asked" for 4 seats from boarded paying customers. Without the employee passengers they were not overbooked or any overbooked passengers were not on the plane and we're irrelevant to the situation. I have flown plenty of times with other airlines wh…
And I made the perhaps inane point that we don't actually know that.
I still haven't decided whether I think the airline should be allowed to deplane a passenger arbitrarily.
I'm sure that they should be allowed to deplane someone that is being disruptive (this passenger was not), so it is a matter of what justifications are acceptable, not a matter of whether they can do it at all.
Re: Twitter allegedly deleting negative tweets about United Airlines incident
#270The main threads on Reddit were deleted also: https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/64jbfq/1458098779... Many more: https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/
Jesus Christ, what's going on? How can we counteract this? They absolutely deserve the bad publicity they're (or would be) getting!
1. Not fly United again until they offer an unconditional apology and compensate the passenger.
2. Sold off United stock as of this morning.
3. I am not trying to make this about Twitter for now. (Also I am way under water on my stock that I will lose too much if I sell them now)