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Re: I made my son cannabis cookies. They changed his life

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Post by lightedman »

ryanlol wrote: post #165
lightedman wrote: post #147

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"marijuana is not physically addictive" As a lifetime medical patient, this is not entirely true. There are plenty of physical withdrawal effects. The primary one being headache and hypertension. Another one is lack of dreaming/REM sleep (as cannabis usage depletes your melatonin/serotonin levels, which effects your REM sleep.) "THC doesn't have near the same capability to incapacitate people" THC-Vivarin will hit yo…

>THC-Vivarin Huh?

THC-Varin (stupid autocorrect on my phone from prior post) (AKA THC-V)is a highly-psychoative, hard-hitting THC homologue that is highly stimulating with very short duration of effect. High levels of this are present in African and Asian sativa strains. If you've ever taken a hit of stuff that got you high immediately, chances are you just had a quick THC-V dose from the strain. It lasts about 15 minutes, then fades away, leaving the normal delta-9 THC to do its thing for the next few hours.

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Post by pvaldes »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #134
daveguy wrote: post #119

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This. It is incredibly irresponsible to run the equivalent of clinical trials on your child. She pointed out a single medical study of cannabis for children that was a bust. Clinical trials are highly controlled and dosage is tiered for safety. Cowboy drug trials are dangerous and stupid. I don't care if it's cannabis, crack or aspirin. And she tested the cookies on herself to see if they were ok? Did she realize she…

All very easy to say, safely in your house away from your loved child in pain with 600+ violent outbursts a day. Every parent has only one subject; every child raising is a trial. You only have one chance and have to choose one approach. This drug is used worldwide by maybe a billion people. Scaremongering is unhelpful.

The problem is that this drug is used worldwide as excuse to put in jail a lot of people also. Health issues aren't the only issues here to adress. This boy has now a bullseye painted publicly on his back and will be targeted in a few years by several kind of predators.

On the other hand, this "just put them to sleep all day" is a particularly outrageous "solution" for autistic children, that often are very smart and sensitive people and deserve to be respected and loved, as any other children.

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Post by spraak »

mythrwy wrote: post #198
spraak wrote: post #76

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I came into the comments to find the trolls, the haters and the ignorant. Didn't have to look far. Cannabis IS A wonder drug

Cannabis is a wonder drug. It makes people wonder about all kind of things. Like where they left the car keys. And why they left the refrigerator door open.

That's very specific to the cannabinoid THC. There are countless other healing cannabinoids that have no psychedelic or impairing effect, e.g. CBD, which is at this time probably the most studied non-THC cannabinoid.

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Post by jungletek »

mcguire wrote: post #114
ritchiea wrote: post #93

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The case isn't "my kid mellows out on weed" it's "my kid has behavioral problems that prevent him from functioning at home & in school that are alleviated by weed".

The point, though, as I take it, is, would you be satisfied if someone took the time to isolate and synthesize the active ingredients in weed and made those available in prescription form?

It's been done already. The consensus, IIRC, is that it sucks compared to 'natural' forms, is too strong, lacks the 'secondary' active ingredients that many need/seek, and exists as a profit source and a source of control.

https://www.google.com/search?q=marinol&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

etc.

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Post by silentmars »

gravypod wrote: post #174

If you're ok with this, ask yourself if you'd be ok wih a parent giving a kid bourbon to put it asleep. This used to be a common household trick before people decided it was probably not a good idea. Granted I think the war on drugs is stupid but I also think a failed parent shouldn't be the one championing the anti-war-on-drugs movement as that's only going to give the opposition ammunition. I'm also not a developme…

Obviously you have no kids and no interest in persuading anyone who does, to be throwing around this "failed parent" talk for anyone raising a child with special needs.

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Post by vinay427 »

baddox wrote: post #124
vinay427 wrote: post #96

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(Not the OP) There isn't just the selection bias of people you tend to know potentially not being representative of most drug users, but the need for comparing how those same drug users would do without drugs (I'm not sure how this is possible to evaluate). It isn't enough to say that some drug users are highly motivated and successful, which I don't contest.

That would be an interesting study, but it's not relevant to the discussion of the war on drugs. The comparison you'd need to make it how those people you know would be doing if they were in prison for using illegal drugs. I'd wager they'd be doing worse.

I agree about that study being more relevant to the war on drugs, but my point was simply in response to the anecdotal claim about the motivation and success of drug users. If it were possible, it may provide more insight into how drugs should be viewed in society, regardless of legality.

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Post by groovy2shoes »

notyourwork wrote: post #184
milesf wrote: post #74

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The United States always needs an enemy. Hitler, communism, Russia, Viet Cong, acid rain, drugs, them... The war on drugs might subside because of the perfect enemy they have now: terrorists. A faceless, ever-present threat that can keep the war drums beating. What I'd like to see is the military-industrial complex shift their battle to a War on Extinction: space exploration.

> War on Extinction This is a really good way to phrase it as a marketing campaign. It could be used for global warming, energy problems and like you mention space exploration.

Given our track record when it comes to "Wars on Concepts", initiating an outright "War on Extinction" seems to me like a sure-fire way to guarantee we go extinct within 20 years...

Maybe we ought to instead start a "War on Health" or a "War on Learning" ;)

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Post by morgante »

grzm wrote: post #242
morgante wrote: post #241

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I'd say the end to constitutional governance would be a good definition. That'd be included in all your scenarios except the police state. As much as I'd hate to live in a police state, I don't think you can call that the "collapse of the USA." China is very much alive.

I think many Americans would no longer consider the USA the same country if it were a police state. It would be the US in name only.

Eh, we're a country that also allowed slavery for decades and only allowed a minority of citizens to vote for most of its history. I'm willing to embrace an expansive definition of the "US."

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Post by morgante »

darpa_escapee wrote: post #250
morgante wrote: post #223

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> There are sizable portions of the US and Europe that believe muslims are terrorist sympathizers who want to enact Sharia law. Sure, and there are millions of people who believe all sorts of nutty things. Millions of people believe that stars predict the future or that aliens regularly abduct people. That doesn't mean we should legitimize these beliefs.

Acknowledging that a bogeyman exists as a bogeyman doesn't legitimize the belief that a bogeyman is real.

It does if you refer to the bogeyman without pointing out that it's false. You said terrorists are an existential threat, not that some (crazy) people think they are.

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Post by grzm »

morgante wrote: post #268
grzm wrote: post #242

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I think many Americans would no longer consider the USA the same country if it were a police state. It would be the US in name only.

Eh, we're a country that also allowed slavery for decades and only allowed a minority of citizens to vote for most of its history. I'm willing to embrace an expansive definition of the "US."

allowed slavery for decades

And doesn't anymore.

only allowed a minority of citizens to vote for most of its history

And now does.

These are both examples of how the US has improved over time. I would be very surprised to see a reversal on either of these. If there were, people would similarly question whether it was still the US in anything but name, even if this had been the situation in the past.

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