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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by Klathmon » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:00 PM UTC

ohbleek wrote: post #130

Klathmon wrote: post #94

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Actually I've found that by setting up a blocker on my devices that I can toggle on and off at will is enough. When I start the workday, I toggle it on, and every time I try to load my social stuff (HN included) it puts up a big red warning. I found that the majority of my wasted time was because I impulsively opened a tab to somewhere during like 10 seconds of downtime while waiting for something. And having this li…

Will you share what you're using as a blocker and on which device?

It's an extension for chrome that I'm using, as I tend to not have a problem with my phone during work.

I'm not near my PC to be able to say which one exactly, but there are several made specifically for this kind of thing.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by kowdermeister » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:00 PM UTC

I've read the whole article, but this is where I should have stopped.

> I’ve never had a social media account.

He basically summarized that procrastination is harmful and social media is to blame. He doesn't really share anything I haven't known as a social media addict. Kinda like saying to a smoker that smoking tobacco causes cancer. I know that, what now? I tried shutting down social media sites with plugins, blocking sites in the hostfile and other slow to circumvent things. They kinda worked, sometimes never. I also noticed that if a site gets shut down, something new emerges that replace it.

This is something you have to deal with, regulate it. If you find yourself constantly opening FB, Twitter or whatever your addiction is, then it signals that something you are having problems with something you should be really doing.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by refurb » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:01 PM UTC

mtnygard wrote: post #187

evgen wrote: post #57

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> There are just bigots who can not tolerate different opinions. Nor are they obligated to. To paraphrase, I may defend your right to speak your opinion but I am not required to be your friend or to spare you from any social consequences of your speech. Make no mistake, there has never been a time when unpopular speech did not have consequences for the speaker and if this bothers you then feel free to exercise your r…

Employers in California are in fact legally obliged to tolerate political opinions in their employees. Quoting from http://volokh.com/2013/08/06/lawsuit-over-firing-based-on-em... In 1937, “the California Legislature, recognizing that employers could misuse their economic power to interfere with the political activities of their employees, enacted Labor Code sections 1101 and 1102 to protect the employees’ rights.” L…

Interesting! Based on when this became law I assume it was to protect workers who were interested in labor protection and socialism.

Now it can be used to protect those who political beliefs are more on the right. How the worm turns!

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by dalbasal » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:02 PM UTC

hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

Makes me think of this: http://www.paulgraham.com/addiction.html

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by SRSposter » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:03 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #217

logmeout wrote: post #194

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> I believe it's absolutely okay to get rid of these people in a company Once you start thinking like that, it becomes easy to find any way to rationalize firing anyone for any reason.

Eh, I don't know. I think Nazis are categorically and fundamentally different than, say, anti-vaxxers. I mean, if you don't want to vaccinate your child, fine. I don't agree with it, but I can live with it. If you identify with a group that literally burned people in ovens though? Yeah, I can't live with that, sorry.

>If you identify with a group that literally burned people in ovens though? Many nazis dont

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by mreiland » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:03 PM UTC

Retra wrote: post #250

base698 wrote: post #228

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Are they really nazis and zealots, or were they labeled as such? How would you discus these views with the person and change their mind if you label them as unworthy of your employer. Free speech acts as Natural selection for ideas. Bad ideas never get checked and fester in filter bubbles if you don't let people express themselves openly.

How does free speech act as natural selection if there's no penalty for 'bad' speech?

Why are you thinking about free speech in terms of things that need to be penalized (or rewarded)?

I encourage everyone to avoid answering that question, it presupposes that the mindset that resulted in such a question is valid on some level and worthy of engagement.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:03 PM UTC

475748263538 wrote: post #234

b3b0p wrote: post #209

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I have the same problem. I found editing my hosts files helps. 127.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com When or if I try to go to HN I get an error in my browser and instantly reminded. Then I get back to work. One time I went 6 months without visiting HN.

I wish, I could do that with reddit, but I reddit isn't just for news and trending shit. For many things I am trying to find a reddit discussion first. I can only block the whole domain, right?

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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by BurningFrog » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:05 PM UTC

forgetsusername wrote: post #106

cuantos wrote: post #86

More importantly social media is bad for your mental health. It hits the brain in many of the same ways as the 'news' and those intentionally boring phone games. It causes dopamine dysregulation which leads to a dependency. Consider the anxiety you feel if you need to go to the bathroom and cannot find your phone. This dopamine dysregulation destroys your mood and motivation. Being social is a good thing. However com…

> Consider the anxiety you feel if you need to go to the bathroom and cannot find your phone. Is this a real thing?

Bathroom time is already wasted, so it's a guilt free opportunity to check your feed.

Unless you spend 5 minutes finding the phone first.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by tedmiston » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:08 PM UTC

b3b0p wrote: post #209

Veen wrote: post #35

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> I've recently been finding it really hard to concentrate on my work I've overcome my Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter problems, but I can't seem to shake Hacker News.

I have the same problem. I found editing my hosts files helps. 127.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com When or if I try to go to HN I get an error in my browser and instantly reminded. Then I get back to work. One time I went 6 months without visiting HN.

Avoiding HN entirely doesn't really solve the problem though.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by nickpsecurity » Sun, Nov 20, 2016, 5:08 PM UTC

kazinator wrote: post #242

Veen wrote: post #35

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> I've recently been finding it really hard to concentrate on my work I've overcome my Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter problems, but I can't seem to shake Hacker News.

Hacker News isn't social networking. Look, you have no friend list. No private message box. No feeds are pouring into your account. If you post something inane, you're punished by anonymous strangers.

Not quite. It's mostly not social media but there are similarities. There's a friends list here for sure where certain topics or people attract either similar or the same people. A small community effect happens there in the sub-threads. There's no private messaging but anyone posting an email or contact option will get messages if their posts are worthwhile. Anyone with HN Replies commenting a lot will have a pile of posts in their inbox on topics of interest. The last requirement mostly doesn't apply to decent members of the community but the sketchy ones dodge with with throwaways on a regular basis.

So, a bit closer to underlying mechanics of social networking in practice than it would seem on surface. Enough to get a similar participation high. That's on top of the knowledge expansion we use to justify the other high coming from the fact that we just enjoy reading this stuff. ;)