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Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by huehehue »

enraged_camel wrote: post #217
logmeout wrote: post #194

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> I believe it's absolutely okay to get rid of these people in a company Once you start thinking like that, it becomes easy to find any way to rationalize firing anyone for any reason.

Eh, I don't know. I think Nazis are categorically and fundamentally different than, say, anti-vaxxers. I mean, if you don't want to vaccinate your child, fine. I don't agree with it, but I can live with it. If you identify with a group that literally burned people in ovens though? Yeah, I can't live with that, sorry.

Interesting you compare those two groups where, in the 21st century, an anti-vaxxer is more likely to be responsible for causing a death.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by kazinator »

Veen wrote: post #35
hashtagMERKY wrote: post #31

This part really resonated with me: > Consider that the ability to concentrate without distraction on hard tasks is becoming increasingly valuable in an increasingly complicated economy. Social media weakens this skill because it’s engineered to be addictive. The more you use social media in the way it’s designed to be used — persistently throughout your waking hours — the more your brain learns to crave a quick hit…

> I've recently been finding it really hard to concentrate on my work I've overcome my Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter problems, but I can't seem to shake Hacker News.

Hacker News isn't social networking. Look, you have no friend list. No private message box. No feeds are pouring into your account. If you post something inane, you're punished by anonymous strangers.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

475748263538 wrote: post #234
b3b0p wrote: post #209

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I have the same problem. I found editing my hosts files helps. 127.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com When or if I try to go to HN I get an error in my browser and instantly reminded. Then I get back to work. One time I went 6 months without visiting HN.

I wish, I could do that with reddit, but I reddit isn't just for news and trending shit. For many things I am trying to find a reddit discussion first. I can only block the whole domain, right?

I imagine there is some software where you can block the entire domain but whitelist certain subreddits - I do not think the hosts file affords that level of granularity however.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by thro32 »

throwaway-hn123 wrote: post #143
thro32 wrote: post #51

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Yes, it is free country. Big part of HN believe that black people, gays and even women are "subhuman" who need special help and special protection.

Great, and as it's a free country, it's then perfectly ok to try to get this person fired for those views, right? Or is the freedom limited?

Do whatever you want, but that does not make you a "good guy", just a vindictive weasel.

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Post by Retra »

mtnygard wrote: post #187
evgen wrote: post #57

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> There are just bigots who can not tolerate different opinions. Nor are they obligated to. To paraphrase, I may defend your right to speak your opinion but I am not required to be your friend or to spare you from any social consequences of your speech. Make no mistake, there has never been a time when unpopular speech did not have consequences for the speaker and if this bothers you then feel free to exercise your r…

Employers in California are in fact legally obliged to tolerate political opinions in their employees. Quoting from http://volokh.com/2013/08/06/lawsuit-over-firing-based-on-em... In 1937, “the California Legislature, recognizing that employers could misuse their economic power to interfere with the political activities of their employees, enacted Labor Code sections 1101 and 1102 to protect the employees’ rights.” L…

What does "political action or political activity" mean here? Everything you say or do is political to some degree, but it would hardly make sense to tolerate everything someone says or does.

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Post by eternalban »

grzm wrote: post #191
eternalban wrote: post #125

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What he said: http://media.grubhub.com/media/press-releases/press-release-... He very explicitly says that any employee that disagrees with his statement should resign and the "statement" included his political views. Will wearing a t-shirt with "I heart America" get you fired at GrubHub? It's on Matt's list of no-nos: nationalist.

"Will wearing a t-shirt with "I heart America" get you fired at GrubHub? It's on Matt's list of no-nos: nationalist." Nationalism and expressing love or pride in one's country (patriotism) are two different things, I think. They can be felt simultaneously but can also be expressed separately. Nationalism focusses more on cultural background, language, and heritage, which "I ︎ I don't know how all of this will shake o…

> Nationalism and expressing love or pride in one's country (patriotism) are two different things

I would agree that they are distinct, but very much related.

> Nationalism focusses more on cultural background, language, and heritage, which "I ︎Ok, then, how about this t-shirt of Mickey/Heart/Flag: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/155866837074483117/

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by b3b0p »

ricardobeat wrote: post #225
b3b0p wrote: post #209

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I have the same problem. I found editing my hosts files helps. 127.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com When or if I try to go to HN I get an error in my browser and instantly reminded. Then I get back to work. One time I went 6 months without visiting HN.

HN offers this functionality itself. Go to your profile, enable 'noprocrast' and customize the intervals.

This only works if I am logged in though. Thanks for pointing it out though as I completely forgot about it.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by aikah »

Some also people made a career and a lot of money out of saying obnoxious things on social media.

I think it works both way. It can be detrimental to people who think what they say online is "private" (Justine Sacco), but plenty of attention seekers double down and take advantage of the viral effect of Twitter or Facebook to "promote their brand", whatever that means, or to make up controversy. But for these people it is also a double edged sword as the consequences of saying something on social media cannot really be controlled. But for most of us it is only a source of problems and unnecessary controversy, it is especially true on Twitter.

Re: Quit Social Media, Your Career May Depend on It

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Post by Retra »

base698 wrote: post #228
gkya wrote: post #192

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I don't want to work with a nazi, or with a racist, or with a fundamentalist zealot. I believe it's absolutely okay to get rid of these people in a company, as work is a social environment, no matter the level of professionalism. And also they may cause harm to the organisations they're part of.

Are they really nazis and zealots, or were they labeled as such? How would you discus these views with the person and change their mind if you label them as unworthy of your employer. Free speech acts as Natural selection for ideas. Bad ideas never get checked and fester in filter bubbles if you don't let people express themselves openly.

How does free speech act as natural selection if there's no penalty for 'bad' speech?
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