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Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by smanuel »

BitMastro wrote: post #231
smanuel wrote: post #42

- Google is afraid of Facebook - Google wants more users in Google+ - People don't care about Google+ - This doesn't change the fact that Google is still afraid of Facebook and wants more people to use G+ - Google will try to do everything it can to drag you into this service which you won't use anyway What's so strange about this?

-90% false -100% true -100% false for people using Google+ (absolute percentage unknown) -50% false -80% true

Let me rephrase "google is afraid of facebook" because it obviously leads to a lot of falses. Google would like to keep the marketing money that goes to Facebook back at Google.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by trendoid »

eliasmacpherson wrote: post #18
spectrum wrote: post #9

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That's why I use different browsers. Chromium logged in with my Google accounts, Firefox for everything else.

I go one step further, and put chromium in incognito while logging in to google services. The only problem is clicking youtube links from gmail/gtalk - I have to remember to paste them in to firefox.

block cookies from YT?

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by bookwormAT »

SeanLuke wrote: post #218
ancarda wrote: post #161

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Is this how you treat your customers?

Wait, you actually paid money to Google for Youtube? You aren't the customer. You are the product being sold.

Nonesense. He's the customer.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by BitMastro »

smanuel wrote: post #251
BitMastro wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

-90% false -100% true -100% false for people using Google+ (absolute percentage unknown) -50% false -80% true

Let me rephrase "google is afraid of facebook" because it obviously leads to a lot of falses. Google would like to keep the marketing money that goes to Facebook back at Google.

True, I believe that it is a simple reasoning: more people on Google+ leads to the better targeting for a wider audience, so better ads and more revenue. The social interaction is just another channel of information.

As you said, why is it so strange? It makes a lot of sense from a marketing point of view (the business strategy dictates so) and an engineering point of view (they already have a commenting system for users).

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by hahainternet »

MrZongle2 wrote: post #250
hahainternet wrote: post #170

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For the most part yes. There are always naysayers, always conservatives. If you listen to them, no progress can ever be made. You have to decide on a course and take it. Ultimately, if integration with Google ruins Youtube, then a competitor will eviscerate them. If it ultimately improves it, the criticisms will fade away.

"There are always naysayers, always conservatives. If you listen to them, no progress can ever be made." Did it occur to you that perhaps some of these "conservatives" learned a painful lesson the type of which you have not yet encountered?

No doubt, but my point is that no matter the quality or validity of the change, some will always oppose it.

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Post by dgesang »

bambax wrote: post #141
mcphilip wrote: post #109

The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

Seconded. I was wondering if it was possible to be accountless on Youtube while logged in in Gmail, in the same browser, or if one needed to use two browsers. It turns out, blocking all cookies for youtube.com and www.youtube.com does the trick!! And it also solves the very annoying name change prompt that blocks every other video when logged in.

I've switched back to manually select the websites that are allowed to use cookies. It's actually little effort and it feels good.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by ivanbrussik »

cromwellian wrote: post #249
sillysaurus2 wrote: post #242

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As an employee of Google, you should realize you're in a groupthink environment. I absolutely despise the new Google+ change. The top comment on the most recent video I watched was a Google+ comment consisting of the title of the video plus ten hashtags. That was it. The other Google+ comments were similarly horrible and content-free. At least with the previous implementation, you'd get a top comment that made you la…

It's not really Google groupthink that YouTube comments suck, that's an external observation. Obligatory xkcd: http://xkcd.com/202/ It may be groupthink that G+ comments are better, but for my social stream, the people I follow, G+ is not a ghost town, it is a highly interesting place full of lots of thoughtful commentators. If I can filter comments by those whom I respect, and transitively, maybe one degree extended…

For the past 5 years I've been appalled by the amount of SPAM being generated on YT. Like this cute baby, then you'll love Ivans P800X Weightloss System 4.0. 56 thumbs up. Top comment. Every video.

I'm sure Google knew this was going to cause a stir. Every major interfact change that FB does causes mass outrage and even groups like "get 100,000 likes to petition for mark zuckerberg to switch back to the old FB" and such.

a lot of the pissed off ppl (not all) are the anonymous cowards that liked to hide behind throwaway identities, spammers, and people that generally like to read meaningless comments.

I am also an active G+ user and really enjoy several communities and groups that are of interest to me. What's really missing is the mainstream market: pics from last night, pet photos, moms, teens, etc. right now it is mainly super interweb savvy people who are active because they know how serious google is about G+

as a channel owner I am stoked about the change. i dont like getting used to new interfaces any more than the next person but I can definitely see how this will add a ton of value to my channel and YT in general.

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Post by ta_goo349 »

marianov wrote: post #191
JohnDoe365 wrote: post #183

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Came here to second that. I live in Austria. Google pretends that all I am interesteed in has to be in the German language, somewhere nearby where I live and all sort of assumptions. Recently the Internet has become a small world for me. Going to google.com helps somewhat

http://www.google.com/ncr (no country redirect). Gets saved in a cookie. No more local search. That's in case you get redirected to google.at or the like.

doesn't help with google not providing relevant search results anymore, and usually half the first page of results isn't even for the keywords I searched.

it used to be 10 pages of relevant results.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by sunF »

mcphilip wrote: post #109

The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

Have you tried the "feather" beta? No comments, no ads, five seemingly relevant suggestions.

Now I'm listening to Spindrift, Brian Jonestown Massacre, Rebel Drones, BRMC, Money...

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