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Post by homosaur »

myko wrote: post #93
homosaur wrote: post #57

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This used to be true, but what issues are you having with mobile? Since Android support was added, I've had few issues with it.

Really? In my opinion the Vimeo Android app is abysmal. The design isn't responsive at all, it looks third party and unprofessional. To be fair, it's much better on iOS - but still outclassed by YouTube.

Oh I actually haven't looked at the app, I was just talking about embedded video. I'm sure you're right about that, Android clients tend to lag way behind.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by acdha »

mlyang wrote: post #131
acdha wrote: post #83

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> hold more people accountable for their comments (w/ their reputation) This belief has been thoroughly debunked by Facebook comments. There's absolutely no reason to believe that Google+ will be any better, particularly since the ghost-town nature of G+ means people will rightly assume they can flame away and nobody they know will ever see it.

That's true-- although just based on my observations it feels like Facebook comments on popular posts are silly because of how angry/polarized they are, not necessarily how nonsensical they are (relative to Youtube's comments historically). For example: typical bad Facebook comment = angry rant at Sean Parker from person who seems genuinely angry vs typical bad Youtube comment = some nonsense troll/needlessly racist…

Perhaps, although I've seen an awful lot of trollish/bigoted Facebook public comments on anything related to politics — it's not as bad as YouTube but increasingly close.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by JohnDoe365 »

forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #175
mcphilip wrote: post #109

The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

I Agree. I miss the time when I could control what I search and find anything in any part of the world in any language. Now they believe that because I live in Spain I have to speak Spanish, or be interested first in Spanish stupid things, or be only interested on the topics I searched in the past. Now while using gmail I search with Bing, so it does not mess anything.

Came here to second that. I live in Austria. Google pretends that all I am interesteed in has to be in the German language, somewhere nearby where I live and all sort of assumptions. Recently the Internet has become a small world for me.

Going to google.com helps somewhat

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Post by InclinedPlane »

Kylekramer wrote: post #178
InclinedPlane wrote: post #162

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You're making a very basic logical error. Youtube comments on the whole may be horrible, but that doesn't discount the possibility (in fact, I'd say certainty) that some youtube comments could be good, even valuable. There are many channels on youtube where the comments are fairly high quality, even by HN standards. The downside is that the people who put in the effort to nurture high quality comments on their channe…

So in order to preserve a small minority who have somehow carved out a working system (which I'll assume exist despite never seeing them) in the overwhelming onslaught of vitriol and crap, we just have to deal with said vitriol and crap continue as is? This also assumes that Google+ comments will kill off these high quality comment channels. I am sure it is true for some, but it is hardly the absolute death knell for…

False dichotomy. I'm arguing that google should have figure out a better way to add better functionality to the youtube commenting system than just shoving google+ down everyone's throats.

Google actually has something like 7+ different comment systems. And yet for some reason they felt compelled to cram youtube's square peg into google+'s round hole because that was the only reasonable technological solution? Because that was the only possible way to improve the situation?

Bullshit. It's because they want to prop up google+ and they want to make targeted ads easier.

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Post by kunai »

sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

I lost my entire YouTube account that I had for three years and got it replaced with a Google+ account. No favorites, likes are gone, playlists have been removed, and my videos are now on a separate channel that's linked to my Gmail. So when somebody searches my username, they won't be able to find anything.

Seriously, Google, if you're going to make shitty changes to the second-largest website in the world, at the least make sure user data is preserved.

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Post by janson0 »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #137
mcphilip wrote: post #109

The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

It's really goddamned frustrating and just shows how hollow google is as a company. They have search and ads, and an utter inability to actually build anything else or connect with a customer base. For a company this is like having cancer. It's astounding that they can ignore the situation to such a degree. Youtube is already an amazing force in the world, and that's with google half-assing so much of it. With enough…

I totally agree with you on this. It is mind boggling.

We are resorting to working on a platform for video discovery and monetization, since we just got disgusted as both content creators on YouTube and also as consumers (and found so many other people have the same disgust).

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Post by tveita »

DominikR wrote: post #135
kdot wrote: post #77

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I hate Google+, I'm sending back my Nexus 5, it's useless without Google+.

I honestly do not know what Nexus 5 feature or functionality wouldn't work without a Google+ account, and that's from someone that bought the phone on release day.

Can you send SMS without logging into Google+?

I've read reviews saying that SMS has been integrated into Hangouts.

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Post by OoTheNigerian »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #142
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #81

Although it may not be a popular opinion, here is the reason: there is only one Google (at least for social stuff) and one login system now. Google plus is the "Google account" you need to use any of their social services. I am frankly surprised that they allowed the login of their acquisitions to stay fragmented for such a long time.

So you think that blogger accounts will be folded into google plus?

Definitely.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/bringing-google-comme...

I am not too sure how much the blogger business is. It will not surprise me if it is folded into Google plus entirely

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Post by Pxtl »

samolang wrote: post #62
john-n wrote: post #29

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Forgetting Buzz?

I loved Buzz

Buzz was actually a nice bare-minimum functionality of social networking - lite Twitter. Plus is Google trying to consolidate some monstrosity of everythign Google Social into one space.

Buzz was fine, if ugly. The only real problem with Buzz was how they leaked private GMail information.

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