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Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by ohaal »

This has been a dream of mine for several years now, and I believe Ubuntu (with Touch coming around) is currently the OS best suited for this task. However I do have some concerns which still go unanswered. Until then, I'm holding back my pledge.

1: I realize this is their first attempt at this, but if this phone doesn't support 2+ monitors, then this simply won't work as a desktop replacement. HDMI-output is nothing new. Who still uses a single monitor on their desktop?

2: I didn't find any mention of docks. I'd be interested to see if there would be any future plans to create different types of docks. I.e. tablet dock with extended battery life (like the Asus PadFone), desktop dock with 2+ 1080p+ monitor output. Preferably with the docks allowing USB connections, so that we are not stuck with buying new gear all around. Maybe even a laptop style dock?

3: Context awareness. Not sure if this is already addressed, but it'd be nice if when I docked it at work, I'd have the option of continuing where I left off yesterday. Achievable through profiles combined with some NFC cleverness? Personally, I can think of a few contexts I'd set up myself: desktop@work, desktop@home, laptop, tablet, HTPC, nightstand, car... and of course, phone.

4: Waterproof. If I'm going to walk around with my personal computer in my pocket, it'd be nice if a splash of water didn't kill it.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

RockyMcNuts wrote: post #57
rlpb wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm gathering that the handset makers and carriers and VCs laughed them out of the office, so they had to go this route. From the FAQ: "If we don’t reach our target then we will focus only on commercially available handsets and there will not be an Ubuntu Edge." I don't think this supports your assumption.

I think it means they'll do Cyanogenmod style distribution instead of partnering with a handset maker/carrier.

I think you need to watch the video. It definitely sounds like they've had talks with manufacturers and been heavily criticized for believing that the industry is ready for this kind of convergent device. As Mark said, manufacturers need proof of this proposition.

It sounds to me like Mark has said, "Fine then, we'll go to our fans with the ideal device and see if the market responds. If they do, we're right and you can help us make these. If they don't, we're wrong and you can help us make more realistic devices."

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by rsynnott »

umsm wrote: post #112

I love this concept, but I can't help but think: If apple releases the next iphone with an hdmi compatible connection, that would eliminate the benefit of this, no?

The iPhone does support HDMI out via an adaptor, and has since the iPhone 4 (though screen mirroring only showed up on the 4S; the 4's video out was just for apps that supported it). Various Android devices do, too.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

ensmotko wrote: post #176
ldng wrote: post #163

Wait a second ... 32 millions ...rings a bell. Isn't that current Canonical debt ?

"they may still be $7millionGBP from being insolvent" source: http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/05/is-canonical-ltd-finan...

LinuxAdvocates...

I wouldn't advise using that guy as a source of reliable information.

For far more balanced views that aren't pro-Ubuntu (necessarily) it would be more advisable to visit a site like The Var Guy.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by primelens »

Canonical really seems to believe in the convergence of multiple computing platforms. They've staked a lot on it and ticked off a lot of people in the process. I don't know if it'll succeed, but I sure love seeing them try with such gusto. Succeed or fail, this sort of choice and innovation (not to mention debate)is what makes the FOSS community so interesting.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

nnash wrote: post #59

I really think they're overestimating who they perceive their target audience to be. 830USD is more than an unlocked iPhone 5...

I think you'll find that, with due respect, this will kick an iPhone 5's ass around the neighbourhood and back by the time it's released (pending funding success). Not least because it will have better specifications.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

AndrewGaspar wrote: post #99

Is it just me, or does it seem like Canonical is taking all of their design cues from Microsoft at this point? Ubuntu's mobile OS uses all the same kind of edge swipes that Windows 8 uses and this phone looks like a small Surface.

If you've been following the phone industry for a while you'll realise this isn't all design cues from Microsoft. You'll find a lot more in common with Nokia's N9 than WP8.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by Guvante »

YokoZar wrote: post #231
Guvante wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't get 1% interest risk free in a high-interest market, let alone the current one. If you try really hard you can get 1% a year without taking on risk. And you can't have any risk if you are going to be manufacturing phones with that money (sorry we don't have enough phones, we bet on Apple and their stock went down 20%).

US Government Treasury bonds have a 3.5% annual interest rate. I'm pretty sure that buying them does not require trying hard.

What bond has that high of an interest rate? I am seeing 0.3% annual rates for US bonds right now. (And that is for 2 year bonds, not very good for 1-3 month lags)

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by socceroos »

ubersync wrote: post #209

Am I missing something? How is this phone any different from say Google Nexus 4, or Samsung Galaxy S4? E.g. Google Nexus 4 has almost the same specs other than RAM, Storage and Dual LTE. But it is only for $300. More specifically, how does the Formula 1 analogy fit in? This phone is priced about the same as iPhone, Samsung Galaxy and has almost the same specs.

You consider double the RAM, double the storage space, the fastest CPU available by HW sign-off, sapphire crystal and full metal uni-body to be 'almost the same specs'?

I must admit, I do like the look of this phone and I've followed Canonical for years now - but please, lets be realistic on both sides here - these specs are not 'almost the same'. They're not even close.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by [deleted] »

seabrookmx wrote: post #215
fingerprinter wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think 4 gigs of ram, sapphire display and 128gb ssd are going to be the norm in 2014? Not very likely. That would be just about double the Samsung S4 right now. I don't think it is very likely for 2014. 2015, maybe though. And I don't think Canonical is going to build the phone but work with someone to do it. > (3) would be a negative for me... you would get the slowest, least power efficient, and most app-baron…

The S4 has a 1080p screen (better than the edge) a Quad (comparable to the edge) and with SD cards, can be expanded to 128gb of storage on the cheap. Not to mention the app selection for Android is unbeatable. Sure it didn't have many apps in the early days, but because it was one of the first to market, it will retain this lead. Look at HP's touchpad, BB10, and Windows Phone - they've had years to catch up and have…

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