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Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by tszming »

It would be more easy for you to switch to other providers if you own your domain - now you know why Google removed the free Google app for custom domain last year...Don't forget the story of XMPP, who know they will not remove pop3/imap access in the future because these standards are not able to catch up the Gmail's upcoming revolutionary features?

After all, all these moves are understandable - they now have nearly 50K employees, shareholders have high expectation on the "growth" and they need to invest on projects like glasses, self driving car and maybe mars exploration! Where does the money come from? I would expect Google will receive less criticism if they simply remove the "Don't be evil" from their company motto - then we can say Microsoft/Yahoo! is doing the same thing, why complain?

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Post by casual_slacker »

so_whaaaat wrote: post #242
ChuckMcM wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

Who fucking cares. Google sucks now. Gmail sucks now. I am aborting all Gmail related accounts post-haste. I may as well be using AOL. Those stupid tabs, and retarded categories are bullshit. The exact kind of noisy, cluttered, shitty interface I'd expect from any other e-mail service. Fuck them in the ear.

I don't disagree with you, but it took me all of 2 seconds to disable the new tabs. I haven't seen any of the ads mentioned in the original tweet, so maybe this is a solution?

To do it: Hit the Plus sign at the edge of the tabs, and uncheck everything except Primary. You'll be displayed a message saying that you disabled the new tabs.

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Post by underdown »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #226
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

is it possible their cpc went down because they've overwhored themselves and not the other way around? I seem to recall a shit ton of changes to SERPs preceding and during the periods mentioned.

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Post by glesica »

dendory wrote: post #39

Email used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The circle is almost complete.

I suggest Fastmail. I switched a few months back and haven't missed GMail yet. YMMV, but you owe it to yourself to give it a look.

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Post by jes5199 »

jstalin wrote: post #139

Having used Adblock (currently Adblock Edge) and Ghostery/Disconnect for so long, I haven't seen ads in ages. It's actually a bit jarring when I use a computer that doesn't have ad blocking enabled... everything suddenly gets so cluttered.

I tried to switch to Adblock Edge, but it seems to be buggier than Adblock Plus - like, the extension config screen doesn't seem to work

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Post by davidgerard »

lloeki wrote: post #55
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

> they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? As long as it stays in "promotions" tab, I could care less, as this is where they belong. If that's the case that's actually a smart move to introduce in-maillist ads without polluting the "real" inbox. As soon as they flow out of that bucket, we're entering Twitter's dickbar levels of dorkiness.

The trouble is they shove a pile of your real mail in there too, unless you go to disable the tab.

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Post by josteink »

rfnslyr wrote: post #166
Spooky23 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That pricing is totally feasible. I've run large Exchange implementations where a large mailbox costs around $50/year, and a small webmail costs around $20-25. That was a few years ago, based on Exchange 2007 and 2010 -- meaning using fibre channel SAN for storage, tape backups, F5, etc. If you implemented today with Exchange 2013, you'd probably be able to cut costs 30% or more. There are a ton of costs areas embedd…

Probably should have mentioned free alternatives as I've signed up with Google Apps for business prior to December 2012. Also, it's still free if you use Google Education. So, any free alternatives to Google Apps for my domain?

The free internet fest is over. sorry.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by ancarda »

josteink wrote: post #108
rfnslyr wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?

Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig. The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor). I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial. [1] http://fastmail.fm/

Since I use Google Apps for my email, I could easily move my mail to another service without telling people my new address but Fastmail doesn't seem to support using your own domain. Do you know any service like Fastmail but with domain support?

Edit: The "family" package offers this: https://www.fastmail.fm/signup/family.html

Edit Again: I should have poked around more, it's included in the personal package too.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by Nux »

zmmmmm wrote: post #249
Nux wrote: post #49

Given that this is avoidable by using any POP or IMAP client, I wonder how soon they'll close them down. I'm pretty sure it's a matter of "when".

I think it's a good benchmark of their real intentions whether they interfere with those at all. At the moment, because any user can bail out to an IMAP or POP client, including 3rd party web services that behave as those, there is a natural limit to how obnoxious Google can be. If they degrade their native web inbox sufficiently, people will switch to alternatives in droves (I already have long ago).

Indeed, we'll know their real intentions once they interfere with those services, however a bad precedent has already been created: their jabber/xmpp service.

Anyone with Android phones, what's the default way to check your emails, IMAP? If yes, then there is still some hope. :-)

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