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Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?

I've been running my own mail, jabber and www server for over three years now, and I am extremely happy with it. If anybody is interested in my setup and/or would like to run their own, I'll be happy to write a quick guide/howto.

I would be very interested in a quick how to guide.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

Who fucking cares. Google sucks now. Gmail sucks now. I am aborting all Gmail related accounts post-haste.

I may as well be using AOL. Those stupid tabs, and retarded categories are bullshit. The exact kind of noisy, cluttered, shitty interface I'd expect from any other e-mail service.

Fuck them in the ear.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

Who fucking cares. Google sucks now. Gmail sucks now. I am aborting all Gmail related accounts post-haste. I may as well be using AOL. Those stupid tabs, and retarded categories are bullshit. The exact kind of noisy, cluttered, shitty interface I'd expect from any other e-mail service. Fuck them in the ear.

This response made me actually laugh out loud, mostly because of the delivery combined with it's accuracy in alluding to something very important:

We often seem to look at an issue from the other's point of view and deem it wrong or okay based on that. Why? Why not look at these situations that affect us directly from our point of view? Sometimes all that matters is you. This is one of those times.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

Who fucking cares. Google sucks now. Gmail sucks now. I am aborting all Gmail related accounts post-haste. I may as well be using AOL. Those stupid tabs, and retarded categories are bullshit. The exact kind of noisy, cluttered, shitty interface I'd expect from any other e-mail service. Fuck them in the ear.

Bravo sir, bravo. Not sure why you felt the need to create a throwaway account for it as it is a completely valid point of view. To completely capture the meme though a "and git off my lawn!" is needed there at the end :-)

As for your rhetorical question about who cares, I'm guessing the folks who've seen Google stock go from $600 to $900 are wondering if its time to switch to something else. If you're anonymous opinion is common among their users then the answer to their question would be "yes, definitely."

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#245

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

"This is wrong." If you read their earnings release from yesterday[1], you will see this gem "Average cost-per-click, which includes clicks related to ads served on Google sites and the sites of our Network members, decreased approximately 6% over the second quarter of 2012 and decreased approximately 2% over the first quarter of 2013." If you aren't careful you might think that is a "good thing" Gee it cost them 6%…

might be inevitable for Google. Might not be for another clever service provider, or might not be for a paying-solution.

Either way, Gmail is going down with things like that. Internet is one space where people can choose not to have ads, and nobody likes ads.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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> I can't find what I want, it's non-intuitive, things aren't where they used to be and I can't stand it. I might just be getting old though... Definitely getting old. You sound exactly like every old person (3 of them) who i've moved from Outlook to Gmail.

If you joined Gmail when it was new and on an invite-only basis, you'd know just how much worse things has gotten. Back then Gmail was better than everything else. Now it's an abomination which makes me want to jump ship.

Are you kidding? Maybe it's grown beautiful in your memory since you last saw it. 2004 gmail is fugly.

FYI, everyone was upset when it changed. That's normal human behaviour. Nobody likes change. But since then, I've learnt where the "hidden" features are, and am lovin' it.

BTW, the new Hotmail (Outlook.com) is pretty awesome too. Even better than gmail IMO.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#247
post #142

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One could argue that signing up for a Google service is enough to form a "business relationship" with them. Just like how if you buy a new pair of rocket skis from ACME, you're likely to get promotional email from them featuring sales on anvils.

In which case I'm sure Google will provide an unsubscribe option.

It already has, it's called Delete Account

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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post #147

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$50 per year per person. As I run a Google Apps domain for my family, that would be several hundred dollars per year.

You said: >I'd love for Google to work out how much money they make from me in a year, and then to offer to go ad-free for 50% more than that. How do you know that the $50 per user per year isn't exactly calculated that way? I'm actually inclined to guess that the value Google gets out of you by showing ads might be significantly higher than the $33 your calculation would allow them to earn from you.

If I could pay for just me, I'd be tempted.

But with a domain it's all or nothing, and I'm not paying for my brothers, parents, etc.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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post #49

Given that this is avoidable by using any POP or IMAP client, I wonder how soon they'll close them down. I'm pretty sure it's a matter of "when".

I think it's a good benchmark of their real intentions whether they interfere with those at all. At the moment, because any user can bail out to an IMAP or POP client, including 3rd party web services that behave as those, there is a natural limit to how obnoxious Google can be. If they degrade their native web inbox sufficiently, people will switch to alternatives in droves (I already have long ago).

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who fucking cares. Google sucks now. Gmail sucks now. I am aborting all Gmail related accounts post-haste. I may as well be using AOL. Those stupid tabs, and retarded categories are bullshit. The exact kind of noisy, cluttered, shitty interface I'd expect from any other e-mail service. Fuck them in the ear.

This response made me actually laugh out loud, mostly because of the delivery combined with it's accuracy in alluding to something very important: We often seem to look at an issue from the other's point of view and deem it wrong or okay based on that. Why? Why not look at these situations that affect us directly from our point of view? Sometimes all that matters is you. This is one of those times.

Also: note the originating username.
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