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Yes, that's what we're saying. A small generator cannot meet the emissions standards of a large generator.
You’re just not trying. There’s no reason at all that “generator” can’t be batteries rated for x hours, or a small generator that IS emissions certified. I.e. https://www.reddit.com/r/Generator/comments/1hydy6j/recommen...
EPA says power for data centers can sidestep pollution laws
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> Do the octogenarians in power not remember when they couldn’t breathe because of the lead in the gas Lead causes brain damage and memory impairment...
...and lead was standardized only because it was patentable . Otherwise ethanol was enough to achieve the same thing. Brought you proudly by Thomas Midgley, Jr., who solved science problems by making bigger ones. - https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/thomas-midgley-and-t... - https://www.ehn.org/thomas-midgley-jr-lead-poisoning
Leaded gasoline caused colossal harm, but it did a good job of solving problems with fuel at the time.
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When it comes to laws, do you just look at the title of the law, or do you look at the actual statute and regulations to see what the law applies to and what it doesn’t? Does a “vehicle inspection program” meant for commercial trucks apply to your car just because the title fits? In this case, there is a 25 year old regulation that specifies what this program applies to and what it doesn’t. https://www.ecfr.gov/curre…
Blah blah blah. Yap yap yap. It’s funny how the laws always apply until it’s a rich fucker breaking them. You might be fine with skirting the technicalities, but the rest of us have to live here and breathe the air.
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#255> Clean Air Act (CAA) Acid Rain Program (ARP) does not apply to power generation facilities that are not connected to a public electricity grid, commonly referred to as “islanded” power generation facilities. This of course makes no sense whatever, as whether or not a power generator is connected to the grid has nothing to do with its environmental impact.
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#256> Clean Air Act (CAA) Acid Rain Program (ARP) does not apply to power generation facilities that are not connected to a public electricity grid, commonly referred to as “islanded” power generation facilities. This of course makes no sense whatever, as whether or not a power generator is connected to the grid has nothing to do with its environmental impact.
Most generators not connected to the grid are for emergency backup purposes. Granted, this carve out is now clearly being abused, but the original intent is quite rational. If we enforced strict regulations on all generators without any exceptions at all, your sewage lift station might not have a backup source anymore.
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Blah blah blah. Yap yap yap. It’s funny how the laws always apply until it’s a rich fucker breaking them. You might be fine with skirting the technicalities, but the rest of us have to live here and breathe the air.
These aren’t “technicalities.” What types of activities the laws apply to is a central aspect of every regulatory regime.
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It should be mind numbingly trivial to stand up a solar farm and ram through some transmission lines in the desert, and mind numbingly hard to set up a temporary gas generator. We needed regulatory exemptions yesterday for clean energy, public transit, and EV charging.
Oh it would be if AI actually made money. Turns out all those companies cheap out and don't actually want to put down the 20 billion for a nuclear reactor- which should be trivial if they were really the future!
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Why is it any different from "we want an asphalt parking lot but it's not worth the asphalt cost" or "we want a giant sign but the pole to hang it on is too expensive" or "we want an asphalt parking lot but renting the machine to paint the lines is too expensive" or "we want to be open 24/7 but we can't afford to cover third shift"?
Because this is a constraint we've imposed upon ourselves to the detriment of the public. It's like how you have all sorts of workplaces with absolutely moronic rats nests of extension cords and power strips and whatnot because you don't need a permit to plug stuff in. They're following the rule and arriving at a stupider worse solution and we're all poorer for it. We could literally be richer at the stroke of a pen.…
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It sounds an awful lot like you are willfully ignorant on water management. Considering how accessable the basics are, I'm having trouble believing your argument is in good faith.
It's all bullshit. I get the whole sponge principal. It's make-work bullshit to make everyone do all this BS when it would be infinitely more efficient to solve this stuff wholesale on a municipal level and reap the benefits of letting property development be constrained by one less requirement to shovel money at certain people. Same basic argument in favor of municipal sewer over super fancy super high cost septic s…