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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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> What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. I fall on the other side of that coin: I care about the final output way more than the story & struggle of the artist. Also: Nature is probably the most epic artist in my book - a sunset, leaf, coral or rock can outshine virtually any human creation.

I think most people care about the final output, especially the market. This is why many artists complain about mainstream art, because it genuinely isn't interesting from an artist's perspective. I'm not too familiar with visual arts, but I know most jazz musicians make a living off of teaching music and doing concerts where the attendees are just other musicians. It's very much centered around technique and human p…

That's the saving grace of it for me tbh

AI art shows the philistines for who they are. It's a giant decoy to lure them away from spaces where people are making art of more substance.

I feel the same way about things like the absolutely miserable quality of Marvel, Star Wars, etc. stuff leading to films being increasingly polarized between 60 IQ blockbusters and more interesting small projects. It's what kicked off the 70s arthouse cinema in the US, and I'm hoping we get a similar renaissance soon with the success of all of the small and difference projects lately.

>doing concerts where the attendees are just other musicians

If this is how jazz musicians actually made money, they'd have all died of starvation at this point. Every jazz musician that's not a top 20 or so act makes most of their money playing whatever kind of music people pay them to make, whether it's church music, session musician gigs, etc. The entire reason they started doing (and still do!) straightahead jams is that they were tired of playing schlock all day and wanted to spice it up with and for other people tired of playing schlock.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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I'm in the middle. Sometimes the artist story is so compelling it almost makes the body of work make sense on a new dimension. However, having said that, I also am highly skeptical of authenticity and almost always believe the art is created and the story gets written after the fact as some artistic song and dance because no story/why/reason is never an option.

It's also somewhat considered lame and cliche to ask an artist where their idea came from, and what their intention was. However people will claim that the artist had an intention, it was just not obvious to the artist at the time. The art was also shaped by their experiences, etc. So in contrast, AI does not have this intention.

Maybe people will find deep meaning in “AI is us, any intention was shaped by the written down intentions of every human that ever put pen to paper”.

maybe masters of art will train their own tortured models in digital dungeons and a rich man’s home won’t be complete without a cyber collective of pathological artist models actively that you guests CAN interrogate about why they chose what on the basement homelab.

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But they are not claiming that current models are better than humans but later developments might. Do you think that a descendant of a fish could be a playwright or put on a play?

Objectively no. Fish form animals have been around far longer than mammals and we've touched the moon.

Well I would expect them to have been around for longer if they were to be ancestors of mammals.

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I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

Eh, I'd like to see YOU make a better music video for $100 or less!

I remember when my friends in middle school were making DBZ fight scene music videos with iMovie and Movie Maker. They were way better than this and did not cost $100.

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Objectively no. Fish form animals have been around far longer than mammals and we've touched the moon.

Well I would expect them to have been around for longer if they were to be ancestors of mammals.

Taking your logic to its conclusion fishes (or descendants of fish) regularly recite Shakespeare.

However there is a major flaw in your logic. Fishes (or their descendants) reciting Shakespeare is part of natural history. AI making quality music videos is just a prediction (or maybe even just wishful thinking). The former has occurred and has been observed, the later has not. So you are comparing nature with science fiction.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song.

A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

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Lmao yeah I’d rather give $100 to a college kid to film a bunch of shit and then splice it together. Would be significantly more interesting.

What college kid would do that for $100? Seems like a lot of work. They might do it for free if they enjoy it or for a class, but purely for the money, not even close to being worth their time.

It depends on how long it takes to make the video. Most employed college kids are paid minimum wage or thereabouts. $100 is a day’s work.

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Weird Al videos are often totally literal and extremely fun as a result. https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?is=tU_8p-hDZv9gjAJ6

Wierd Al videos are a parody of an existing property. "White and Nerdy" is a parody of "Riding Dirty" by Chamillionaire, but the lyrics are about nerd stereotypes (as an intentional contrast with black culture as presented in the original,) and a great deal of creative effort is put into making those lyrics humorous while also fitting to the original theme. Nothing about Wierd Al's videos are "totally literal," certa…

Lots of the shots in white and nerdy are literally showing what the lyrics are describing, is there another level to them with references I’ve missed?

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Feel like a lot of comments are missing the point here - the authors weren't trying to make a great music video, they were trying to test independent tool use.

Despite how awful the end result may be, the models did successfully plan and execute a moderately complicated generation and editing process.

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