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Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by skinfaxi »

nfw2 wrote: post #246
nailer wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Like, why would this be true Steel-manning the sovereign citizens movement (which I don't believe in): they believe authority comes from the consent of the populace, which is a true statement and in many countries founding documents, they mistakenly think that means the law doesn't apply to them when they as an individual do not consent. They basically don't get that democracy is the tyranny of the many.

Social contract philosophy has always seemed oversimplified to me. Are people in China or Iran consenting? "I consent, so I won't be killed" seems more like coercion.

What is tolerated is consented to in a sense. The alternative is rejection of the contract terms but you have to be willing to bet your life on it.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by Lio »

goobatrooba wrote: post #202

One other Twitter comments reveals that they probably just asked an AI to copy Papermark. Evidenced by AI comments saying the page was aligned to the "reference" https://xcancel.com/ffumarola/status/2070479755892371713#m

I wonder if this will get worse with so many firms now using agents.

You’re sharing your entire code base with a 3rd party you have to trust not to train on it.

If they do your competitor’s just to ask it to produce something using your business as a reference.

Good luck taking that one to court considering what happened to the publishing industry.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by argee »

dijksterhuis wrote: post #161
liendolucas wrote: post #140

Can someone give a bit more of context on this thread? I have no idea who Nico is nor what Papermark is or does. As an aside thought not related to the thread: Is it my perception or people are getting more used to not only vibe code things from existing solutions/projects but also "steal" open source code and do whatever the heck they want without complying morally/ethically/legally to the whole premise of open sour…

> Is it my perception or people are getting more used to not only vibe code things from existing solutions/projects but also "steal" open source code and do whatever the heck they want without complying morally/ethically/legally to the whole premise of open source? yes. it's way easier to do now. edit -- plus a lot of new ai-only entrant devs don't understand/care that foss is about freedoms rather than free as in be…

I've seen this same thing happen with MIT licenses...I would only consider it a real win or loss for FOSS when a court says something about it, and I don't consider facilitating online bullying to be something to be proud of. Just use the law like an adult, starting with a simple C&D.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by bcye »

stevekemp wrote: post #150
overfeed wrote: post #108

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> I am curious how this will play out legally I am curious if/how YC will handle this to get ahead of earning a reputation of being a den of scammers - a few months after the Delve scandal

Many YC companies do bad things, and I guess they do so independently. There may well be repercussions for the most egregious cases, but I suspect a lot of ill-behaviour simply flies under the radar. For example only yesterday I got spam from an YC company, Polymath, and I replied back asking where they got my details from - no response yet. Once I get something I'll make a GDPR subject access request, then a deletio…

Good luck with referring to GDPR. Try clicking through YC startup list and see how many load GA and other trackers onto their landing pages without a consent banner or even a privacy policy sometimes. It’s baffling.

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Post by slopinthebag »

Chris2048 wrote: post #80

What's with this response in the Twitter thread??: "This ain't what a C&D looks like. Implies you don't actually have a leg to stand on. Upload a copy of your official legal demand (from a lawyer) or I'll forever see your company as one who attempts to bully the competition in public" -- https://xcancel.com/jacobhartmannx/status/207012600834729596... Is this just trolling?!

Yes he's trolling. His bio is "CEO at @IronGorillaAI - proudly replacing white collar work with autonomous AI agents, one job at a time. American emigrant." and look at one of his recent posts lmao

> THIS GUY ONLY WANTS 7 DAYS IN OFFICE.

> At @IronGorillaAI, we run on the French Republican Calendar.

> That’s 10 days a week.

> We mandate all 10 in the office.

> No hybrid. No remote. No negotiations.

> If that sentence triggers you, you were never built for this anyway.

Re: Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark

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Post by nfw2 »

skinfaxi wrote: post #251
nfw2 wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Social contract philosophy has always seemed oversimplified to me. Are people in China or Iran consenting? "I consent, so I won't be killed" seems more like coercion.

What is tolerated is consented to in a sense. The alternative is rejection of the contract terms but you have to be willing to bet your life on it.

I don't see how that could be called consent. No one would say someone consented to sex, for example, because they weren't willing to die by refusing.
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