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Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#251
This behavior of blocking some domains and IP ranges during LaLiga games has become a routine by now. You might also want to check these similar submissions:

My game's server is blocked in Spain whenever there's a football match on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45358433

Spain’s LaLiga has blocked access to freedom.gov: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47114235

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Whenever I get a little down over how much power unelected corporations have in my country, I can at least cheer myself up a little by being thankful that something as stupid as football doesn't have enough power here to control whether or not I have internet access.

It would if it were bigger business in your country. Try torrenting an MCU movie and see what happens to your ISP account.

Out of curiosity, what does happen?

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Off topic but I wonder when Cloudflare is going to launch their own Docker registry as a product.

Well, Cloudflare does not launch anything. They acquire to build products. Look into all their recent product launches. They acquired a relatively small company and converted the founding team to a product team. So, if you want them to build stuff, ask yourself, are there any "Docker Registry" startups out there. If jsdelivr/globalping is not keeping you busy enough... there is an idea

Yes, actually, there are. I've built https://clipper.dev. I'm somewhat focused on robotics/edge device use cases right now (handling large images in bandwidth constrained environments), but my storage costs are also 1/7th of DockerHub. It also enables device to device content sharing much easier than base Docker, will be much easier to do antivirus/vuln scans, some other side benefits.

If there's something you'd want out of a registry that you think the market would want, I'm all ears.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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I work in IT and have found that the issue impacts my work but not my ability to stream sports from sites of questionable legality. Of course, I don't pirate La Liga matches but that's primarily because I don't give a shit about soccer. But the point is that the measure does more to block legitimate use than illegitimate (in my experience). And next they want to go after VPNs. Wonderful.

But think of the children ... and futbol!

Think of all political donations

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#255

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technically, LaLiga themselves doesn't even do the blocking. They have a court order from some years ago that allows them to compel all the individual ISPs to block any IP addresses they specify, with no oversight or review

This must negatively impact a huge number of businesses. Is there no move for them to all get together to take legal action against LaLiga to stop them doing this?

Think of the all political donations this would lose

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Well, Cloudflare does not launch anything. They acquire to build products. Look into all their recent product launches. They acquired a relatively small company and converted the founding team to a product team. So, if you want them to build stuff, ask yourself, are there any "Docker Registry" startups out there. If jsdelivr/globalping is not keeping you busy enough... there is an idea

Honestly I would build it if I knew how to properly market it to quickly get users. Globalping and jsDelivr took years to gain a meaningful user base

What would you build that would make it different/better than the existing registries out there?

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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Sadly, it won't accomplish anything. La Liga seems to have enough political power in the country to bury all of that. Probably bribing everyone involved.

Corruption at that level could mean organized crime. Is there a culture of betting through illegal bookies, are they fixing matches, or ¿porque no los dos?

No, its worse than that. If you wish, learn about FIFA and how it works. At least the mafia fears the government somewhat...FIFA doesn't.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#258
This is far from the first time that I see on HN indignation on LaLiga blockings. Sadly all this rage does not seem to lead to any change.

I'd like to suggest some steps that might/should be followed, which I will not pursue personally but in my defense - I do not live in Spain and not affected.

1) (first! low-effort) Somebody should create any space on the internet, where such anecdotes might shared and probably people with common goals of fixing internet access in Spain will meet. E.g. telegram group, discord channel, subreddit...

2) probably create wiki with related research: legal framework and possible actions etc

3) Raise public awareness. Create a resource/website with schedule of past and future "semi-blackouts", simple explanation of possible effects a layman may notice etc

4) Explore legal actions that might be taken. How this issue might be forced to be discussed by politicians? For instance I know that Portugal has official mechanism to put forward petitions, that will be discussed in parliament if get enough votes [1]

Space of possible demands in such petitions is vast. For instance:

- Make LaLiga compensate partly price of internet access

- Force LaLiga to include education notice in the beginning and the of translation with title like "Start of reduced internet connectivity" / "End of reduced internet connectivity"

[1] https://participacao.parlamento.pt/initiatives/

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

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> The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Funny enough, I work in IT and I've had to use a VPN to be able to do my job when soccer is on, but my two non-tech-savy family members that do watch soccer using pirate livestreams say that they've never had any issues with blocked streams.

But you must realize, the alternative to this is that some very wealthy Spanish companies ... lose a small amount of money. Surely you understand now. Go about your business, poor person.

In all fairness, the Spanish economy is a mine, a farm and a soccer league in a trenchcoat. Better than Ireland which is 2 tax shelters in a trenchcoat, but not by much. Not surprisingly, they are the 2 most left leaning countries in Europe. To be fair, they had an actual fascist government in Spain for several decades and there were atrocities committed.

Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

technically, LaLiga themselves doesn't even do the blocking. They have a court order from some years ago that allows them to compel all the individual ISPs to block any IP addresses they specify, with no oversight or review

This must negatively impact a huge number of businesses. Is there no move for them to all get together to take legal action against LaLiga to stop them doing this?

This is the country that takes a 2 hour nap every day. They also have a sleeping contest every year with a winner and everything. And Spain isn't hot like Mexico where folks take 2 hours off in the topically heat and make it up for it in the evening because that's more efficient.
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