As a Spaniard, I would be very happy it cloudflare stops serving Spain. The situation is beyond stupid and I know without international pressure and shaming we're not getting rid of this abuse.
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Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#72Cloudflare is cancer. And the tumor is now too big.
You've got it backwards. Spain's ISPs are blocking Cloudflare and other CDNs because of LaLiga/football piracy. CloudFlare isn't doing anything here.
I know this is an unpopular opinion among freedom maximalists, but:
It’s precisely because CloudFlare isn’t responding like other CDNs to reasonable demands to cut off pirate origin sites that this mess exists. If they reacted quickly to remove configurations that are obviously facilitating copyright infringement, Spain wouldn’t resort to full scale ASN blocking.
How do we know it’s CloudFlare? Because other CDNs like CloudFront, Akamai, Fastly, etc. respond to takedown demands and aren’t being blocked. (Those also cost money and require customer identification.)
In an escalating war between the state and a corporation, the state will always prevail if they have the public’s backing. In Spain it’s clear that most people are happy to watch the match through legitimate channels even at the cost of blocking CloudFlare.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly I would build it if I knew how to properly market it to quickly get users. Globalping and jsDelivr took years to gain a meaningful user base
I do not think that is the issue. The recent acquisitions from all these big tech companies did not have any "meaningful" user base to begin with. I think your name alone carries significant weight in the industry and you have built a very large community. If you even vibe code something with, you will get a stupid amount of money thrown at you and a contract that bounds your existing projects and the next 3-5 years…
I wish I had as much faith in myself as you have in me :)
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#74Off topic but I wonder when Cloudflare is going to launch their own Docker registry as a product.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a good English-language article about it, with a timeline: https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/ Looks like same old regulatory capture.
Also, a classic tweet from the Cloudflare CEO re their fight with Italians authorities re censorship: https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492 Everyone looks bad in this conflict.
How does this make Matthew look bad?
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
not necesarilly, any government will make decisions, if there's no one to speak up and inform them why the decision is stupid, like the one from LaLiga, then we end up in this situation
This is incredibly naive.
ok, then what do you suggest? we don't get involved and decisions at the government level are made for us? I might be naive, but let's not be restrained by the cynicism of any involment in politics and governance is corruption
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Pirates would rather not be blocked, so they create a new, disposable website for every game. Any blocking must happen fast. Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked. The courts would rather not create a special fast lane through the courts, just to resolve a squabble between…
> The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games.
Funny enough, I work in IT and I've had to use a VPN to be able to do my job when soccer is on, but my two non-tech-savy family members that do watch soccer using pirate livestreams say that they've never had any issues with blocked streams.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#78Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#79Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found". Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that…
All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.
I've been filing complaints since a year ago, told others to do the same too, nothing happens. There been moments I've meant to deploy fixes to issues but I cannot, because some tooling goes offline.
I've claimed financial loss, claimed sanity loss and everything in-between, but I'm afraid unless something reaches the European/EU courts, Spain will continue to be in the pocket of the La Liga owners.
Straight up fucking censorship with wide collateral being completely accepted in a Western country in 2026, beyond comprehension how this is allowed.
Re: Tell HN: Docker pull fails in Spain due to football Cloudflare block
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games. Pirates would rather not be blocked, so they create a new, disposable website for every game. Any blocking must happen fast. Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked. The courts would rather not create a special fast lane through the courts, just to resolve a squabble between…
> Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked.
why would they?
> squabble between two huge corporations
I think this is just LaLiga using it's cultural and economical power, don't think Cloudflare or the courts should be making exceptions just so they can control how people watch football