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Post by andyferris »

maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

I don't know. It's more of a sharp tool like a web browser (also called a "user agent") - yes an inexperienced user can quickly get themselves into trouble without realizing it (in a browser or openclaw), yes the agent means it might even happen without you being there.

A security hole in a browser is an expected invariant not being upheld, like a vulnerability letting a remote attacker control your other programs, but it isn't a bug when a user falls for an online scam. What invariants are expected by anyone of "YOLO hey computer run my life for me thx"?

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Post by csallen »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #188
bmay wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those hypes are forgotten as fast as they are created. Remember Cursor? of course--i use it every day. are you implying Cursor is dead? they raised $2B in funding 3 months ago and are at $1B in ARR...

What does VSCode fork spend 2 billion dollars on?

Their own coding agent and models, marketing, tons of UI customizations, etc.

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Post by illichosky »

tastyface wrote: post #233
illichosky wrote: post #107

The guy already sold his previous company for a shitload of money. Got bored and did a side project that stirred the Internet on the past month. That is way more than most people here are going to accomplish in a lifetime. Yet, he has some deal with OpenAI to work on whatever he things exciting. I don't see why so much negative comments here other than jelously

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Just look all the people at Trump's inauguration. The whole US economical elite is supporting it...

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Post by DrewADesign »

maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

I think you should give your gut instinct more credit. The tech world has gotten a false sense of security from the big SaaS platforms running everything that make the nitty gritty security details disappear in a seamless user experience, and that includes LLM chatbot providers. Even open source development libraries with exposure to the wild are so heavily scrutinized and well-honed that it’s easy even for people like me that started in the 90s to lose sight of the real risk on the other side that. No more popping up some raw script on an Apache server to do its best against whatever is out there. Vibe coded projects trade a lot of that hard-won stability for the convenience of not having to consider some amount of the implementation details. People that are jumping all over this for anything except sandbox usage either don’t know any better, or forgot what they’ve learned.

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Post by Trasmatta »

maxaw wrote: post #229

While following OpenClaw, I noticed an unexpected resentment in myself. After some introspection, I realized it’s tied to seeing a project achieve huge success while ignoring security norms many of us struggled to learn the hard way. On one level, it’s selfish discomfort at the feeling of being left behind (“I still can’t bring myself to vibe code. I have to at least skim every diff. Meanwhile this guy is joining Ope…

I've been feeling this SO much lately, in many ways. In addition to security, just the feeling of spending decades learning to write clean code, valuing having a deep understanding of my codebase and tooling, thorough testing, maintainability, etc, etc. Now the industry is basically telling me "all that expertise is pointless, you should give it up, all that we care about it is a future of endless AI slop that nobody understands".

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Post by Multiplayer »

Aurornis wrote: post #155
Multiplayer wrote: post #103

Potentially amazing opportunity for OpenAI to more meaningfully compete with Claude Code at the developer and hobbyist level. Based on vibes it sure seemed like Claude Code / Opus 4.6 was running away with developer mindshare. Peter single handedly got many of us taking Codex more seriously, at least that's my impression from the conversations I had. Openclaw has gotten more attention over the past 2 weeks than anyth…

> Peter single handedly got many of us taking Codex more seriously, at least that's my impression from the conversations I had. Comments like this feel confusing because I didn't have any association between Codex and OpenClaw before reading your comment. Codex was also seeing a lot of usage before OpenClaw. The whole OpenClaw hype bubble feels like there's a world of social media that I wasn't tapped into last month…

He's been on a number of podcasts - lex recently, and is really emphatic about Codex as the breakthrough solution he relies on. I just looked and on the handful of podcasts there are about 2,000,000 views this past week and half or so.

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Post by elxr »

piker wrote: post #3

Did this guy just exit the first one man billion-dollar startup for... less than a billion?

The fact that 1 billion is the threshold you chose to highlight shows the ridiculousness of this industry.

Openclaw is an amazing piece of hard work and novel software engineering, but I can't imagine OpenAI/anthropic/google not being able to compete with it for 1/20th that number (with solid hiring of course).

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Post by badlogic »

fny wrote: post #227

I really hope Mario who wrote the engine that powers OpenClaw[0] gets spoils as well. OpenClaw is mostly a shell around this (ha!), and I've always been annoyed OpenClaw never credited those repos openly. The pi agent repos are a joy to read, are 1/100th the size of OpenClaw, and have 95% of the functionality. [0]: https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono

peter's claw is a lot more than just a wrapper around my slop.

i too had plenty of offers, but so far chose not to follow through with any of them, as i like my life as is.

also, peter is a good friend and gives plenty of credit. in fact, less credit would be nice, so i don't have to endure more vibeslopped issues and PRs going forward :)

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