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Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Re: Resizing windows on macOS Tahoe – the saga continues

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Post by prmoustache »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #239
Nition wrote: post #215

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On Linux if you learn shortcuts for close/minimise/maximise as well, you can even remove window borders and title bars entirely. It's free screen real estate.

The gnome window title bars are obnoxiously thick and useless by default tho. I've found that Unity or even just Windows like styling in Gnome is a lot more respectful to your screen real estate.

That is a tradeoff that makes it nice when you have a convertible laptop.

I wish it was simply configurable from the settings dialogs.

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Post by sheept »

sensanaty wrote: post #224
jeroenhd wrote: post #199

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Window management isn't macOS' strong suit, but external monitors make it act absolutely crazy. Connecting monitors will do anything from keeping all windows in the same position to restoring previous positions to launching them across screens, sometimes completely outside visible screen space, seemingly arbitrarily. I get why Apple wants you to make every window either a small tile or a full screen application now,…

On the topic of multi monitor messiness, NOTHING gets my blood boiling quite like the taskbar (or whatever it's called, the bottom application drawer) moving between monitors, seemingly arbitrarily Keep your cursor hovered over the bottom of the 2nd monitor? It moves. Want to move it back? I have tried everything I could think of to try get it back, I still to this day after 5 years of being on Mac because work force…

It seems to be a common issue, and despite googling I wasn't able to find a solution that worked (back in Aug '25). For some reason, it does not happen if you position the dock on the left/right side rather than the bottom

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Post by watt »

reddalo wrote: post #226
igregoryca wrote: post #107

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This is already the pre-26 bounding box, isn't it? It's the new graphics that don't line up. (Not a great excuse, but the graphics are here to stay at least for a little while.)

> the graphics are here to stay at least for a little while And that's the reason why I won't buy a new Mac. Tahoe and Liquid Glass are so horrible that they're going to lose customers because of those. They should realize what they did and just backtrack: it wouldn't be the first time they admit they made a mistake [1]. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/4/21246223/macbook-keyboard-...

Remember how long it took for them to give up on that stupid touchbar and "butterfly" keyboard. Don't hold your breath.

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Post by Reason077 »

weikju wrote: post #138
anschwa wrote: post #136

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On macOS, you can enable window dragging by holding down the Control+Command keys with this command: defaults write -g NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture -bool true I use this with "three finger drag", and resizing at the window border hasn't been much of an issue for me.

Wish it worked on all windows. For some reason Settings is exempt from this, for example.

The macOS Settings app is broken in all kinds of ways, as far as UI/UX goes. It's been this way since they redesigned it a few years back. Not that it was great before, but the redesign just made it worse.

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Post by shiroiuma »

kakadu wrote: post #89

I cannot believe we do not have a good arm Linux laptop with a comparable price and battery to a MacBook at this stage. I am forced to use this abomination of an operating system just because. Come on Lenovo, make it happen

It's kinda hard because the CPU that makes MacBooks so power-efficient is Apple's own design, not from an external vendor. So Lenovo can't use it, nor can anyone else; they'd have to design their own, or partner with Qualcomm maybe. And we just don't see anyone working on ARM-based laptop CPUs right now unfortunately.

It would be nice though.

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Post by jakub_g »

sensanaty wrote: post #224
jeroenhd wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Window management isn't macOS' strong suit, but external monitors make it act absolutely crazy. Connecting monitors will do anything from keeping all windows in the same position to restoring previous positions to launching them across screens, sometimes completely outside visible screen space, seemingly arbitrarily. I get why Apple wants you to make every window either a small tile or a full screen application now,…

On the topic of multi monitor messiness, NOTHING gets my blood boiling quite like the taskbar (or whatever it's called, the bottom application drawer) moving between monitors, seemingly arbitrarily Keep your cursor hovered over the bottom of the 2nd monitor? It moves. Want to move it back? I have tried everything I could think of to try get it back, I still to this day after 5 years of being on Mac because work force…

Oh, the Dock. Try to have a setup where you have two displays vertically, BUT you want the Toolbar and Dock both be on the top one, stably - impossible.

Workaround I found: you can configure the monitors to be a pattern like this instead:

   1
     2
touching only in the corner. Then it works, the Dock is on monitor 1.

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Post by pbalau »

Nextgrid wrote: post #72
GaryBluto wrote: post #30

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> Even better, the more trash like this that AI produces the more energy is generated. Do you have any "inside knowledge" that this was caused by LLM use or do you just attribute everything you don't like to AI?

Edited. I'm not strictly saying this was caused by AI, but more of a general point that AI is really good at producing crap work which would make the generator spin faster.

This reminds me of The Paperclip Game: https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

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Post by delaminator »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #31

Since the first taste of Linux WMs, I believe the best and only good way of handling window move and resize is super+lmb/rmb respectively. No more pixel-perfect header/corner sniping! https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/qv0vmz/missing_supe...

I use i3-wm

I never resize a window with its border.

I never minimize a weindow.

I sometimes move a window to a different panel but it snaps to the width / height of the column.

Overlapping windows is perhaps the worst GUI paradigm - it's like the first thing someone thought of for 640 x 480 screens.

Let it go.

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Post by Reason077 »

argsnd wrote: post #75
kiwijamo wrote: post #70

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Agreed. Even Windows has some nice stuff when it comes to windows management IMHO. Every time I end up on macOS I miss the various Windows/GNOME behaviours e.g. window snapping to the right/left half, pressing the Win key to see all open apps, maximise buttons that doesn't put the whole app into full screen mode, etc.

macOS gained window snapping last year, and you can bind some keyboard shortcut to the “exposé” view (which is triggered by a trackpad gesture by default) full screen is still its own thing as you mention, though

The key binding for Exposé is just F3 on most keyboards!
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