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Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Not a given. Re enter the atmosphere. Sure. Avoid vaporization? Much harder problem.

There is some evidence to suggest that spacex knows how to reenter an object without burning it up.

The engineering overlap between between a small object designed for reentry and a flying (crashing...) warehouse is not a circle.

Once upon a time there was a bonkers "rods from god" mass bomb idea, but that didn't work either.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Its very simple, xAI needs money to win the AI race, so best option is to attach to Elon’s moneybank (spacex) to get cash without dilution

> win the AI race I keep seeing that term, but if it does not mean "AI arms race" or "AI surveillance race", what does it mean? Those are the only explanations that I have found, and neither is any race that I would like to see anyone win.

A significant number of AI companies and investors are hoping to build a machine god. This is batshit insane, but I suppose it might be possible. Which wouldn't make it any more sane.

But when they say, "Win the AI race," they mean, "Build the machine god first." Make of this what you will.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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I would not assume cooling has been worked out. Space is a vacuum. i.e. The lack-of-a-thing that makes a thermos great at keeping your drink hot. A satellite is, if nothing else, a fantastic thermos. A data center in space would necessarily rely completely on cooling by radiation, unlike a terrestrial data center that can make use of convection and conduction. You can't just pipe heat out into the atmosphere or build…

My guess is it’s just another example of his habit of trying to use one of his companies to manufacture demand for another of his companies’ products. Specifically: Starship makes no economic sense. There simply isn’t any pre-existing demand for the kind of heavy lift capacity and cadence that Starship is designed to deliver. Nor is there anyone who isn’t currently launching heavy payloads to LEO but the only thing h…

There might be a lot of induced demand from starship. I’m sure defense is a big one.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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It doesn't make any sense to me either, but there are lots of things like that where the other thing is harder. As an example, a thing people say online a lot is something like "Why do the techbros build self-driving cars instead of just putting it on rails for efficiency and then they could call it a TRAIN?" The answer to that is that coordination problems are really hard. Much harder even than what are currently un…

Interesting insight. I can think of some objections, but they don't change your point. I also checked out your blog and got 2 interesting articles in 2 tries. If you have some personal favourites and listing them is not a bother, I'd be happy to read them.

That's awfully kind of you to say! I added a section to the Main Page listing a couple of ones that people have mentioned to me before, though it's a bit of a cluttered page so I doubt it works as it stands.

A few things I think of more frequently than they affect my life are:

* https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Abolish_The_First_Lady - arguing that the FLOTUS role shouldn't exist

* https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Upward_Mobility,_Downward_So... - perhaps a less original idea that economic mobility leads to poorly performing lower-paying services.

* https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/Blog/2026-01-17/Citogenesis - an example of one way that factoids get upgraded to facts

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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I'm convinced that >30% of this comes from ideas leaking out of fiction such as like Neuromancer , and percolating through the minds of wealthy people attracted to some of the concepts. Namely, the dream of being a hyper-wealthy dynasty, above any earthly government, controlling an extraterritorial Las Vegas Fiefdom In Space. (Which in the book, also hosted a powerful AI.) Then they work backwards, trying to figure o…

Stole Grok from Heinlein. At least it’s a good heuristic for people-I-don’t-have-to-take-seriously.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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I’ve come to think of interviews with people like Sam Altman as “freestyle science fiction.” They’re just saying stuff off the top of their head. Like you say, that often entails vague ideas from other sci fi percolating up and out, with no consideration of if they actually make sense. And like most freestyle, it’s usually pretty bad.

That is possible because DOGE and their comrades gutted the SEC and indirectly FINRA like a fish. The government is run by confidence men running crypto scams. That’s how the CFO of OpenAI can essentially say “we need a Federal bailout”, and then turn around and say “lol just joking”.

[checks today's bitcoin price]

Oh.

Is it below the level where mining and blockchain updates become uneconomic yet?

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Remember how he argued for Tesla’s Solarcity acquisition because solar roofs? Data centers in space are the same kind of justification imo.

Solar roofs are much more practical to be honest.

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Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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You guys clearly didn't read the full blog post where Musk mentions lunar mining. They're going to put an ASML machine on the moon and turns regolith into chips and solar panels automatically. Literally free compute

Also cities in Mars, like who the fuck wants to live there?

I would, it would be an adventure.

You could have said the same thing about Europe or America. We could have just stayed in Africa, and the people like you did. But taking the leap worked pretty well, even if it was tough at the beginning.

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