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Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by sheepscreek »

grim_io wrote: post #71
sheepscreek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Space is cold - 4 K. Superconductors.

Repeating the word "superconductor" does not convince anyone of anything.

I don’t care about convincing anyone. A question was asked and I answered the best I could with the time I had at hand.

Also read by comment above that discusses WHY superconductors could be the key to cooler electronics in space.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by icepush »

mongol wrote: post #24
antonymoose wrote: post #10

To Steelman the topic, Musk’s whole alleged mission is to make humans a multi-planet species that can survive an earth killing event. To that end, a small data center space isn’t about unit-economics, it’s a bigger mission. So the question we should consider is what can we put into space the further that mission. Can we put a meaningful sum of human knowledge out there for preservation? It sounds like “yes,” even if…

Let's say there is an earth killing event, and let's say there is an outpost on Mars with some people on it. How much does it really matter that some humans survive, in light of the enormous catastrohophe that killed all life on earth? Is it a very worthwhile objective for our species to persist a while longer, or should we not just accept that also life itself will will die out on geological or astronomical time sca…

The whole point of the space stuff is not accepting all life dying out on any timescale.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by emkoemko »

general1465 wrote: post #67
Starman_Jones wrote: post #3

Very confused by this plan. Data centers on Earth are struggling with how to get rid of waste heat. It's really, really hard to get rid of waste heat in space. That seems to be about the worst possible place to put a data center.

Well the issue is that a lot of people believe that space is cold. If you will ask Google/Gemini what is a temperature of space, it will tell you: The average temperature of deep space is approximately -270.45°C or 2.73 Kelvin), which is just above absolute zero. This baseline temperature is set by the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiatio... Which is absolute nonsense, because vacuum has no temperature.

but if you did use thermometer in space it would eventual read 2.73 kelvin right? so whats the issue? and also for a space based server it would have to deal with the energy coming from the sun

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by mrguyorama »

antonymoose wrote: post #45
mongol wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's say there is an earth killing event, and let's say there is an outpost on Mars with some people on it. How much does it really matter that some humans survive, in light of the enormous catastrohophe that killed all life on earth? Is it a very worthwhile objective for our species to persist a while longer, or should we not just accept that also life itself will will die out on geological or astronomical time sca…

I would suppose there is a gap we face between true species-wide survival capability and where we sit today. I have no true idea how hard we must go to bridge that gap, but it’s quite hard and far. I also see no reason to “lay down and die” as I feel is somewhat implied here. I think it’s a truly noble cause, but maybe I read too much sci-fi as a young lad.

No matter what anyone does, the universe will end, and reality will stop changing.

Everything dies. Deal with it.

Instead of empowering shithead grifters who promise you a way out, grow trees to create shade for people you will never know. You do that by improving things, not burning limited resources on a conman.

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by iancmceachern »

emkoemko wrote: post #85
general1465 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the issue is that a lot of people believe that space is cold. If you will ask Google/Gemini what is a temperature of space, it will tell you: The average temperature of deep space is approximately -270.45°C or 2.73 Kelvin), which is just above absolute zero. This baseline temperature is set by the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) radiatio... Which is absolute nonsense, because vacuum has no temperature.

but if you did use thermometer in space it would eventual read 2.73 kelvin right? so whats the issue? and also for a space based server it would have to deal with the energy coming from the sun

There is no matter.

It's cold there because there isn't anything there.

So there is nothing to conduct or convect the heat away.

It's like a giant vacuum insulated thermos.

Is putting data centers in thermos' a good idea?

Re: Data centers in space makes no sense

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Post by reactordev »

xyzsparetimexyz wrote: post #89

You guys clearly didn't read the full blog post where Musk mentions lunar mining. They're going to put an ASML machine on the moon and turns regolith into chips and solar panels automatically. Literally free compute

If you believe that, you’re Musks target investor group.
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