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Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#251
I don't understand why this needs to be linked to a smartphone. No issue with a national ID, but should we really shackle everything to a phone? They're already lost on the questions coming in about those who don't have one.

Is this just going to be a cheeky kickback to Palantir given the investment last week: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-strategic-partnership...

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#252
Digital as opposed to analog..? Or does every adult need to have a smartphone on them all the time?? I think most countries legally require adults to be able to identify themselves with government-issued ID. Is this so novel for the UK? But I really don't get the "digital" bit...

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#253

One of my concerns with this is the assumption that every adult has a suitable smartphone. Do the government plan to hand them out?

From the linked page: > In designing the digital ID scheme, the government will ensure that it works for those who aren’t able to use a smartphone, with inclusion at the heart of its design.

I guess we'll have to wait for specifics. Unfortunately "it will have inclusion at its core" doesn't really say much.

They are considering enabling its use for more than just work, so what happens when my grandma forgets to charge her phone before her doctors' appointment?

What happens if you want to give teenagers a dumb phone because you as a parent decide a smartphone isn't appropriate, but they need the ID for the NHS too?

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#254

This is a plan so we shall see what happens... This is widely unpopular because the idea of ID cards is unpopular in general in the UK and the people also clearly understand that the argument that this would combat illegal immigration is total rubbish. Even the comments on The Guardian's website are overwhelmingly negative, which should really tell the government something. The proposal is also drastic because it wou…

Id cards are not unpopular with the general public. That's just what the daily mail wants you to think. https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3lzq2w3ovgk2...

> Id cards are not unpopular with the general public.

At the time of writing, 1,017,754 British people have already signed the official petition opposing them; a petition that has only been running a matter of hours.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is on a par with the online safety act. That was fundamentally flawed. This isn't a huge issue and the benefits for ease of access to government services is a positive step. One thing that users of government services face is the need to provide documentation that supports their request. This can be an impediment to users accessing services that they are entitled to in a timely manner. The biggest…

It'll be handed to Palantir. Starmer has run out of things to sell off to billionaires and the only reason this bill exists is so he can sell off the actual citizens too.

Couldn’t agree more.

For reference:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-strategic-partnership...

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#257

One of my concerns with this is the assumption that every adult has a suitable smartphone. Do the government plan to hand them out?

From the linked page: > In designing the digital ID scheme, the government will ensure that it works for those who aren’t able to use a smartphone, with inclusion at the heart of its design.

What of people like me who are able to use a smartphone but are unwilling to?

It's not just the elderly and homeless as mentioned on the page, but also those with religious objections, members of the digital disconnection movement, those concerned about electromagnetic hypersensitivity, and so on.

Should there a right to an offline life for the simple reason that you want live offline? A right which is protected in a few other places in Europe, at least to some extent when it concerns government services.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#258
What's the benefit of this over a passport? A passport is a physical thing, so you don't need to have a phone to be able to use it, proves who you are with the same details as this digital ID, and will probably require a similar amount of paperwork to get hold of

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#259

What's the benefit of this over a passport? A passport is a physical thing, so you don't need to have a phone to be able to use it, proves who you are with the same details as this digital ID, and will probably require a similar amount of paperwork to get hold of

agree, seems pointless

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#260
> Stored on mobile phones, the ID would contain details including a name, date of birth, residency status and crucially a photo - which would distinguish it from National Insurance numbers.

Surely it will be possible to also store it on some government-issued, GCHQ-vetted digital device, and not rely on foreign companies (Google/Apple) and their locked-down mobile platforms?

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