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Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the options legally available to them? They have their own experts, but it sounds like you have a novel idea that hasn't occurred to anyone before.

> legally They're the ones who make the laws?

I love how Brits take laws/rules so seriously but spend absolutely no time thinking _about_ the rules. How they're made, 2nd order consequences etc

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#172
Before the election I was approached by a bubbly young woman who tried to persuade me to vote Labour: "No thanks, last time I did that they tried to introduce ID cards", "But that's not in our manifesto" she replied, "It wasn't the last time I voted for them either".

It gives me no pleasure to be right on this.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#174
This is a plan so we shall see what happens...

This is widely unpopular because the idea of ID cards is unpopular in general in the UK and the people also clearly understand that the argument that this would combat illegal immigration is total rubbish. Even the comments on The Guardian's website are overwhelmingly negative, which should really tell the government something.

The proposal is also drastic because it would be de facto mandatory for all residents. It's hilarious and pathetic to see the government argue that it wouldn't be mandatory, just only needed to get a job (which probably means also mandatory to rent and to study)...

An unpopular government trying to out-do itself.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#175
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>The proposals are the government's latest bid to tackle illegal immigration, with the new ID being a form of proof of a citizen's right to live and work in the UK. How does a digital ID solve an illegal immigration problem? I watched the video and the suggestion is that this makes it easier for employers to verify that someone is authorized to work. Is that actually true? I don't live in the UK and have not visited…

The banks and service providers can ask for your digital ID, the employers can ask for your digital ID and when that becomes the standart you will have very hard time to have a life in UK without having all the permissions. Most of EU and many other countries have something like that, at least you have a citizenship or resident number that they can check against to see what's your situation. In UK though, everything…

AFAIK the recommended way is to open a bank account through smaller banks (aka neobanks). They just send you a card to address specified and once you activated it you (first) get a bank account for payments and (second) can use it to prove address for others. Also, if you legally rent then you get the council tax documents, though it takes roughly a month for them to send. This is another proof of address. And the bills of course, but again it takes a month or so to receive the first letter.

So it's unclear how a digital ID solves anything in regarding the proof of address.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#176

What the hell is with these overly-draconian bills prioritizing control over individual rights being passed as of late?! The online safety act & now this. Our private right to anonymity & privacy has utterly gone out the window at this point...

I don't think this is on a par with the online safety act. That was fundamentally flawed. This isn't a huge issue and the benefits for ease of access to government services is a positive step. One thing that users of government services face is the need to provide documentation that supports their request. This can be an impediment to users accessing services that they are entitled to in a timely manner.

The biggest risk is from a data breach and this information being accessed by unauthorized parties, but that is something all online services are at risk from. The absolute worst way to implement this will be to contract it out to a third party. If it is built and maintained by civil servant developers who have already proved their mettle with a variety of govuk services then I would have confidence in it. If it is farmed out to Fujitsu or some other 3rd party then it will be an shithshow and an expensive one at that.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#177

This is a plan so we shall see what happens... This is widely unpopular because the idea of ID cards is unpopular in general in the UK and the people also clearly understand that the argument that this would combat illegal immigration is total rubbish. Even the comments on The Guardian's website are overwhelmingly negative, which should really tell the government something. The proposal is also drastic because it wou…

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Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#178

This is a plan so we shall see what happens... This is widely unpopular because the idea of ID cards is unpopular in general in the UK and the people also clearly understand that the argument that this would combat illegal immigration is total rubbish. Even the comments on The Guardian's website are overwhelmingly negative, which should really tell the government something. The proposal is also drastic because it wou…

Id cards are not unpopular with the general public. That's just what the daily mail wants you to think.

https://bsky.app/profile/samfr.bsky.social/post/3lzq2w3ovgk2...

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#179

This is a plan so we shall see what happens... This is widely unpopular because the idea of ID cards is unpopular in general in the UK and the people also clearly understand that the argument that this would combat illegal immigration is total rubbish. Even the comments on The Guardian's website are overwhelmingly negative, which should really tell the government something. The proposal is also drastic because it wou…

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> What it will combat is illegal immigrants ability to work.

No. That's a rubbish claim by the government.

Employers must already check right to work and it is straightforward. Penalties are unlimited fines and jail, with penalties of 40k+ dished out on the first offence.

Re: Britain to introduce compulsory digital ID for workers

#180

What the hell is with these overly-draconian bills prioritizing control over individual rights being passed as of late?! The online safety act & now this. Our private right to anonymity & privacy has utterly gone out the window at this point...

I don't think this is on a par with the online safety act. That was fundamentally flawed. This isn't a huge issue and the benefits for ease of access to government services is a positive step. One thing that users of government services face is the need to provide documentation that supports their request. This can be an impediment to users accessing services that they are entitled to in a timely manner. The biggest…

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