can you find out how much revenue the city makes each week with those tickets?
You can look at the leaderboard at the end of the day and sum the daily intake if you want.
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are definitely people who live in their cars and don’t pay the tickets. EDIT: did a search to see if anyone had analyzed this and here’s reporting that shows basically this. None of the top cars are remotely luxury, eg. https://sfstandard.com/2024/04/15/parking-tickets-san-franci...
Good point. I wonder if it might be a bimodal distribution - peaks for the super poor and the super wealthy. Of course, there are more poor than wealthy, so maybe you'd need to look at the rate per capita for different income brackets.
Maybe but honestly your logic doesn’t really make any sense to me anyway. If my time is worth $10k/hr, why am I driving myself? That alone is a huge waste of money.
My only knowledge of significant parking ticket acquisition from upper classes comes from lawyers outside courthouses. I tried looking for reporting on this but it may have just been a hyper local thing to where I grew up.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just charge market rates for land. Overstaying (aka overconsumption) is mostly just a predictable consequence of selling something valuable at far below what its value.
Even if you charge $10/hr, or whatever the market rate would be for street parking spots, you still need an enforcement mechanism to prevent people overstaying. In general, the idea of a "market rate" for any given property depends fundamentally on a system of property rights actually being enforced.
I've always wondered what the market rate for parking would be if you allowed for things other than parking like restaurant tables, a shed, a tiny skyscraper...
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#254Great implementation but reading the comments I wonder if there is really no sense of the streets as a commons you should use responsibly at all in the US. Not that I am not annoyed by parking tickets, but I am also thankful for the enforcement when I use any means of moving through the city other than a car and at least where I live parking violations are really under-enforced. Maybe that's the difference in San Fra…
Very little of that anywhere in the country, especially when it's the rights of drivers vs other road users. San Francisco is a bit better but gets bad when it goes through its boom cycles that bring lots of people in.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? Having a driver's license is a privilege that requires you to study and know the rules of the road. The onus is on you to know the rules.
Do you have an rss feed of road rules piped into Anki cards or what? Or just maybe "driver's license is a privilege that requires you to study and know the rules of the road" is a fallacious claim that rests on pedantic legal formalism and an impoverished sense of human psychology.
No, I don't; there are plenty of places you can't legally park that do not have painted curbs or "No Parking" signage. Do we also need curbs and signage near every fire hydrant? How about every driveway? Can drivers double-park anywhere they want? Should they yield to pedestrians in crosswalks? Etc. etc.
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#256Let's say that some people are opposed to the city's enforcement of parking rules against them (people who don't want parking tickets for overstaying in a spot, nor for parking somewhere they aren't supposed to). Let's also say that some other people support the enforcement against that first group (e.g., small brick&mortar businesses, and people who want more parking available for quick errands). If the Opposed grou…
Quality public transportation
I don't mean just having public transport but make it be something people actually want to use. It has to be cheap, convenient, and useful. But even in the Bay these aren't all met. It can be hard to get to some places or quality can go down hill real quick.
I think there's these problems which are really self reinforcing. You don't build public transportation because no one uses it. No one uses it because it doesn't actually meet their needs. You don't maintain it because use usage is dropping but usage is decreasing because it's not maintained.
Then you have these external costs that are easy to ignore because you over simplify and think they are out of scope. Like you have to have more parking spaces for more cars. Less green spaces. This all raises the cost of the real estate. So on and so on. There's more complexity than we often think and we should start with our simplifications but to improve we need to consider the complexities we initially ignored
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#257Division I, Section 7.3.3 Obstruction of Traffic Without Permit $1,000.00
“officer, I’ve got a permit to obstruct traffic!”
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#258"each possible ticket number follows a pattern: add 11, except add 4 if the last digit is 6…Only God knows why" That pattern feels suspiciously like how a tacked-on modulo check-digit would act. It seems the real citation number, x, excludes the last digit, and you only needed to +1 increment to it. Then they tack on a last digit, a check-digit, of (x+1) mod 7. That would be the same pattern. The contract for the sys…
Nice observation!
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where should the delivery trucks park if there is no infrastructure for them and the public has an ever increasing appetite for delivered products? Try to think about it from the delivery drivers point of view and their safety. The roads are not any one users exclusive resource. We all pay for them and they must be shared.
One 5 minute delivery spot is as good as many regular parking spots since it won't be taken up by long term parkers. You could probably eliminate 90% of parking spots and turn the other 10% to 5 minute spots and it would be easier for delivery drivers than the status qou
I agree. And on top of that it would be great to have spots with ALPRs that delivery companies can pay for their use and discourage or tow non-compliant vehicles.
Covid time encouraged new food pickup priority parking spots but I don't see a lot of new thinking around emergent street use needs. We have massively increased delivery culture and micro mobility shares and city planning is lagging. (I think delivery is great - fewer car trips and just overall more efficient - my opinion).
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#260Division I, Section 7.3.3 Obstruction of Traffic Without Permit $1,000.00 “officer, I’ve got a permit to obstruct traffic!”
Yes, things like street closures for construction, film shoots, or Neighborhood Night Outs would all need permits to obstruct traffic/close the street.