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Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by ruggeri »

potato3732842 wrote: post #54
spankalee wrote: post #43

It would be great to see more automatic payment and enforcement. It's great that buses can issue tickets for blocking bus lanes, but I would absolutely love for their to be more automatic enforcement of blocking bike lanes and meter violations. I'm not in SF a lot these days, but I have noticed some particularly fancy parking meters that at least have tap-to-pay and might have more. Instead of a ticket, you should ju…

You only love it because you have some perverted dream of 100% enforcement of whatever your rules are. In reality automated enforcement would cause an uproar and the rules would be changed to accommodate the status quo.

I believe you are being downvoted because your comment violates the guidelines ("Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously... Edit out swipes."); anyway, that's why I downvoted.

Your later comment that enforcement might benefit from latitude to be reasonable and accommodate nuance is not invalid, and you could have just said that rather than call the gp's aspiration "perverted." The expressed norm of guidelines is that your belief that the gp's logic is circular does not justify your derision.

Anyway, you will probably be more convincing to others by being less insulting.

If you don't want to contribute in adherence to the guidelines, what is the point of posting here at all?

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by primitivesuave »

dinkblam wrote: post #104

can you find out how much revenue the city makes each week with those tickets?

No - you would have to file a FOIA request with the SFMTA, and then tabulate the "Total Paid" column in the response files. Below is my FOIA request template for the SFMTA [1] to assist anyone who is interested in doing this.

> Please provide all possible information on all parking citations issued between 2009 and the present day. This should include any information related to the car (make, etc), license plate, ticket, ticketer, ticket reason(s), financial information (paid, etc), court information (contested, etc), situational (eg, time, location), and photos/videos. Specifically, please provide the most recent data from the dataset I have received in past FOIA requests, with the following headers:

> Issue Year, Ticket Number, Tick Issue Date, Tick Issue Time, Agency, Tick Badge Issued, Veh Make, Veh Body, Tick VIN, Tick RP State, Tick RP Plate, Plate Exp Date, Violation, Violation Desc, Tick Meter, Tick Street No, Tick Street Name, Suspend Code, Suspend Desc, Tick Suspend Date, Tick Dispo Code, Tick Dispo Desc, Tick Dispo Date Total Paid, Total Amt Due

1. https://www.sfmta.com/public-records-requests

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by neilv »

Let's say that some people are opposed to the city's enforcement of parking rules against them (people who don't want parking tickets for overstaying in a spot, nor for parking somewhere they aren't supposed to).

Let's also say that some other people support the enforcement against that first group (e.g., small brick&mortar businesses, and people who want more parking available for quick errands).

If the Opposed group uses big data to work around the enforcement, does that hurt the Supports group?

What's fair in that situation?

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by hobofan »

ProofHouse wrote: post #183

Can the city just keep the top five and fire the rest, you know tax savings lol although I’d get a parking ticket, surely

Not sure if there are any tax savings to be had. Even the 100th place on the leaderboard netted $2k in a half day of working, so I think every single one of them may provide positive income for the city.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by izacus »

adolph wrote: post #181
whakim wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Having a driver's license is a privilege that requires you to study and know the rules of the road. The onus is on you to know the rules.

Do you have an rss feed of road rules piped into Anki cards or what? Or just maybe "driver's license is a privilege that requires you to study and know the rules of the road" is a fallacious claim that rests on pedantic legal formalism and an impoverished sense of human psychology.

How bizarre, this rule is enforced across most of EU without signage and somehow most people cope. Why wouldn't Americans?

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Brian_K_White »

neilv wrote: post #193

Let's say that some people are opposed to the city's enforcement of parking rules against them (people who don't want parking tickets for overstaying in a spot, nor for parking somewhere they aren't supposed to). Let's also say that some other people support the enforcement against that first group (e.g., small brick&mortar businesses, and people who want more parking available for quick errands). If the Opposed grou…

Who used big data first, who uses big data more, who has more big data to work with, who has big data they get to keep to themselves and who has to work with only big data that both have the same access to?

F this supposed see the other side question.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by bahmboo »

scottbez1 wrote: post #161
bahmboo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where should the delivery trucks park if there is no infrastructure for them and the public has an ever increasing appetite for delivered products? Try to think about it from the delivery drivers point of view and their safety. The roads are not any one users exclusive resource. We all pay for them and they must be shared.

In commercial loading zones! We've allocated the color yellow for this in SF. If commercial drivers petitioned SFMTA to convert more private parking spaces into commercial zones I'd be signing petitions and backing them in their goal 100% of the way. But generally I've found that commercial drivers would rather just violate the law and endanger others rather than engaging in activism for better infrastructure on our…

I can't speak for SF I'm in Seattle. I don't think it is incumbent on delivery drivers to do activism for their employers. That's my opinion. And I still don't understand why people don't see that the delivery driver on foot is a vulnerable user of the roads and sidewalks. We aren't perfect but we are there for the public not because we like it.

Someone else mentioned "externalizing" the cost of parking via citations. Those are expensive and a trove for the city. That sounds more like subsidising than externalizing.

As far as feeling sorry for "them" - that is a disconcerting view of a servant class.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by 83542769854276 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #54
spankalee wrote: post #43

It would be great to see more automatic payment and enforcement. It's great that buses can issue tickets for blocking bus lanes, but I would absolutely love for their to be more automatic enforcement of blocking bike lanes and meter violations. I'm not in SF a lot these days, but I have noticed some particularly fancy parking meters that at least have tap-to-pay and might have more. Instead of a ticket, you should ju…

You only love it because you have some perverted dream of 100% enforcement of whatever your rules are. In reality automated enforcement would cause an uproar and the rules would be changed to accommodate the status quo.

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Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by Rebelgecko »

potato3732842 wrote: post #54
spankalee wrote: post #43

It would be great to see more automatic payment and enforcement. It's great that buses can issue tickets for blocking bus lanes, but I would absolutely love for their to be more automatic enforcement of blocking bike lanes and meter violations. I'm not in SF a lot these days, but I have noticed some particularly fancy parking meters that at least have tap-to-pay and might have more. Instead of a ticket, you should ju…

You only love it because you have some perverted dream of 100% enforcement of whatever your rules are. In reality automated enforcement would cause an uproar and the rules would be changed to accommodate the status quo.

There's pilot programs to let busses self-enforce their lanes. No uproar I've seen, most people are supportive.

Re: Find SF parking cops

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Post by bko »

neilv wrote: post #193

Let's say that some people are opposed to the city's enforcement of parking rules against them (people who don't want parking tickets for overstaying in a spot, nor for parking somewhere they aren't supposed to). Let's also say that some other people support the enforcement against that first group (e.g., small brick&mortar businesses, and people who want more parking available for quick errands). If the Opposed grou…

San Francisco has a system for reporting parking violations. Residents can report illegal parking such as blocked driveways, sidewalk obstructions, double parking, and abandoned vehicles through the city’s SF311 platform.

You can make a report on the 311 website, mobile app, or by calling 311. You receive a tracking number to monitor the response.

https://www.sf.gov/departments--311-customer-service-center

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