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The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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This is all because of technology. Pre internet you could not just isolate yourself and medicate with content since there was only the television. In person communities formed organically as an effect. Those communities have now been eroded by technology. And no, technology cannot help make in person community, it's something organic that needs to happen with people.

On the other hand an extremely shy introvert such as myself might experience things like social media and dating apps having a positive effect on their in-person social life. This is when social media was actually used for more than keeping up with influencers.

you can be shy and still find community with like minded people

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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The article mostly blames pornography and digital addiction, but I think those are symptoms of a larger problem, which is lack of belonging and community. If life sucks, you have few friends you can afford the time or money to see, and you work to make other people rich until you are exhausted, when do you have time and energy to maintain a relationship? If you feel like the world is on fire, it's hard to get in the…

What about hookup culture and apps like Tinder, how do you factor that into your analysis? Also dating apps are connecting people which lead to intimacy. I wonder what the demographics reveal and if it’s only a subset of the population using these.

The inequality on dating apps is very high. Their Gini coefficients vary from 0.4 to 0.6 on most popular dating apps. Even if 100% of people were using dating apps, only the top percentiles of men would be satisfied because they can get way more short-term partners than they could without the apps.

To the extent hookups lead to relationships, it's coming from people that are willing to settle

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Roe V Wade reversal and the extent they rolled back women’s rights has certainly changed the atmosphere.

Roe v Wade reversal happened well past the observed decline in sex occurrence.

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You meet people at work, you don't proposition them at work.

You follow them to the gym, do you?

Uh, only if invited? I mean do you not ever get lunch with coworkers or invite them to events you're hosting or ask if they want to see a movie or concert with you that you've been into? The important thing is to establish a positive social relationship before indicating any sort of sexual interest, so they know you as "My chill coworker John" rather than "John the guy at the office who's always staring at my tits and asked me out for 'drinks' before we ever had a single conversation." It's not impossible to establish sexual or romantic chemistry before establishing social chemistry, but it's sure harder.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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Feminism started in 2010?

I was on some forums back then and it literally took over the entire forum and installed itself into the moderation team. The entire social environment transformed as a result. Say what you will about the positives or negatives of feminism, but that did literally occur.

It commandeered most of the culture in fact, and began policing everyone’s speech, actions, pastimes and fantasies. Then it seemed to eat itself and disappear.

I put this disappearance down to two factors: “me too” alienated too many women, and also the millennials who drove the movement aged out and eased up on their online activities. Gen Z didn’t want any part in it so there were no successors.

Today is like life post covid: we all know it happened but somehow it’s unreal and unbelievable. Some refuse to believe it ever happened at all.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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In micro economics, when a substitute reduces in cost and increases in quality, we see a substitution effect [0] (amusingly, coined by economist Eugen Slutsky), i.e. people switch away from the relatively expensive good and into its lower cost substitute. The primary substitute for physical sex is DIY with porn. Over the past 30 years porn has become orders of magnitudes cheaper (pre internet, it was ~$9 to see ~5 hu…

Porn is a substitute for seeing strangers naked. It's not a substitute for relationships, or even for sexual release. Masturbating is no cheaper or easier now than it ever was; people have been pursuing romantic and sexual relationships despite having the option to masturbate forever.

> Masturbating is no cheaper or easier now than it ever was

Given the amount of men who can't masturbate using their imaginations, masturbation has absolutely become cheaper and easier.

Re: The share of Americans having regular sex keeps dropping

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I haven't seen anyone talking about low T. My doctor has found that many millennials and z have T under 300. One of his patients was about to divorce because he didn't want sex. A San ball change in diet and exercise saved that marriage. Now look at the world of singles. T increase risk taking. What if we have several generations of low T and therefore loss desire for risk. Let's exclude the modern reality of women p…

I’m not sure why this is fading, but I think it’s a big part of it. Testosterone levels have been decreasing for many years, and we don’t know why. It seems to be environmental.
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