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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by canpan »

rcarmo wrote: post #53
thewebguyd wrote: post #38

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> Most of the other examples in the article also apply, but to be honest I've been using GNOME in parallel for years now and I consider it to be my "forever desktop" if PC hardware can ever match Apple Silicon (or, most likely, if I want something that is _just a computer_). I'm there as well. I've been really enjoying desktop Linux lately, but I can't go back to a non-Apple laptop at this point. There's just nothing…

I have some hope that Framework and AMD can fix some of those issues. Would love to try out their new desktop (because it's a simpler, more tightly integrated thing) and replace my Mac mini -- then wait for Linux power management to improve.

Currently also looking at Framework+AMD.

I want Mac hardware but Linux software. The other makers build quality is horrendous. Especially in the 13inch segment which is my favorite. Using a pretty old laptop because there is no replacement right now.

The new Ryzen AI looks really interesting! Sadly there is no Framework shop for me to look at it and they not ship to Japan..

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by senderista »

stmw wrote: post #109

Great post. BTW, there is an (earlier) example of Snow Leopard in the Microsoft ecosystem -- that would be Windows XP, which similarly avoided major new subsystems and new applications built-into-the-OS, but was remarkably fast and stable for its time.

I think you mean XP SP2?

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by pathartl »

starik36 wrote: post #111
pavel_lishin wrote: post #20

> I am not suggesting Apple has fallen behind Windows or Android. Changing a setting on Windows 11 can often involve a journey through three or four different interface designs, artifacts of half-implemented changes dating back to the last century. Whenever I find myself stuck outside of Appleland, I am eager to return “home,” flaws and all. Hard agree with this. I sometimes have to boot up a windows laptop to play M…

I disagree with that. As an occasional user of MacOS, the new Settings app is quite bewildering. There are just as many dials as in Windows and sometimes requires a trip to ChatGPT. And for reasons I don't understand, why is the window itself not resizable?

I'm a Windows fan (I actually really like 11) so I'm a bit biased, but I just dove back into macOS since 2014 and the settings app is truly terrible. The built in search barely works and the layout is so damn confusing. God forbid I install some remote desktop software, now I have to go to accessibility settings 5 simes and approve some permission that is strategically buried for only what I can tell as a way to thwart "normies" from enabling something via obfuscation.

It would be fine if the settings available were actually useful or at least could bring me to some tool that does it better. I get no meaningful report of what's eating my batter and why every time I open my MacBook it's dead. And if I want to change the actual resolution of my display I'm given just a list of scaling options pretending to be resolutions. Oh, want to set a specific resolution or refresh rate? You have to do some stupid kinger king foo of option control something _before_ you click on this dialog. I get the criticism about the Windows settings app and legacy power tools (I think this has largely been solved anyway), at least they exist and allow me some iota of control over my computer

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Post by epolanski »

sxg wrote: post #248
epolanski wrote: post #243

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I'm not sure I agree. I admit I honestly have no idea where the system settings are located as I haven't pressed the start button in ages, but the same applies to MacOS as I would use spotlight there as well.

Using search as a UI means you can only find things that you know exist, but there are plenty of important settings that I've only discovered by actually navigating through the UI.

Just type "settings" then and you go to the main menu.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by pathartl »

yoz wrote: post #235
banqjls wrote: post #156

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What does cross compatible mean in this context? They are two different games written in two different languages. I mean, they look like they are the same game, but they are not. Making one compatible with the other is a Herculean task. If not impossible.

I'm talking about network compatibility, so that a Bedrock client can join a Java server and vice versa. It's clearly somewhat possible because GeyserMC[1] exists. It's just ridiculous that it's a third-party addon. [1] https://geysermc.org/

The games state is handled completely different between bedrock and java

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by gr_norm »

scarface_74 wrote: post #175
ddtaylor wrote: post #123

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Why remember all these little tricks Apple makes you do to use your own hardware?

Yes because everything in Linux is completely intuitive and you never have to know anything obscure to use it to your liking…

The difference: in Linux it is a usability issue to be fixed, whereas on macOS it is a feature and explicit design goal to make it that way. In general, I have found that things which are difficult on Linux are so because the problem is difficult, not because the people who make my computer have paternalistic attitudes about my usage of it.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by scarface_74 »

gr_norm wrote: post #256
scarface_74 wrote: post #175

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Yes because everything in Linux is completely intuitive and you never have to know anything obscure to use it to your liking…

The difference: in Linux it is a usability issue to be fixed, whereas on macOS it is a feature and explicit design goal to make it that way. In general, I have found that things which are difficult on Linux are so because the problem is difficult, not because the people who make my computer have paternalistic attitudes about my usage of it.

So it’s purely ideological without any real world difference?

Are most people better off with Apple defaults?

And it’s not because the problem is “difficult”. It’s because for 20 years it has been claimed that this will be the “year of Linux on the Desktop” and it’s never been good enough for most people.

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Post by [deleted] »

plorkyeran wrote: post #200
joezydeco wrote: post #138

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The tool is built deep in our CI/CD chain. The whole thing is a house of cards built on a massive pile of tinder next to an open drum of kerosene. You want me to integrate XCode into that ? Last time I tried setting up an Apple developer license inside a large corporation, one that they paid for and not tied to me or my credit card, it was also a nightmare. And yes, it's also on principle.

Who said anything about Xcode? The codesign tool is part of macOS, not Xcode. The CLI tool for notarization is bundled with Xcode, but you don't have to use it; they have an official REST API that you can use directly.

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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by gr_norm »

scarface_74 wrote: post #257
gr_norm wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference: in Linux it is a usability issue to be fixed, whereas on macOS it is a feature and explicit design goal to make it that way. In general, I have found that things which are difficult on Linux are so because the problem is difficult, not because the people who make my computer have paternalistic attitudes about my usage of it.

So it’s purely ideological without any real world difference? Are most people better off with Apple defaults? And it’s not because the problem is “difficult”. It’s because for 20 years it has been claimed that this will be the “year of Linux on the Desktop” and it’s never been good enough for most people.

That isn't the denotation of my post; I was not characterizing Linux as a whole, but only responding to your specific (unsound) analogy. It works better for me, for a number of reasons including that above. Perhaps it will work better for you, as well. :)

The second part of your post is incoherent to me, I can't tell what you're trying to say.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by lobsterthief »

atombender wrote: post #94
rcarmo wrote: post #10

There are some factual "gaps" there about how good Snow Leopard was, but I understand the sentiment. As someone who's been a Mac user since System 6 and has been consistently using Macs alongside PCs _daily_ for over 20 years I can say that Apple's software quality (either in terms of polish or just plain QA) has steadily decreased. It's just that me and other old-time switchers have stopped complaining about it and…

Regarding Spotlight, one thing that started happening for me on Sequioa was that Finder and other apps started getting very slow to react to file changes. For example, I can save a new file to a directory, and the Finder window takes maybe 10-20 seconds before the file shows up in the list. If I navigate to a different folder and then back, the file is there. I notice the same delay in apps like IntelliJ. I could be…

I highly recommend using Alfred. I’ve been using it since before Spotlight came out, tried and then disabled Spotlight, and went back to Alfred. It’s extremely configurable but highly usable out of the box. Sort of like creating your own CLI shortcuts to open files, apps, copy things to the clipboard, etc.

https://www.alfredapp.com/

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