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Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by ryandrake »

lttlrck wrote: post #59
pavel_lishin wrote: post #20

> I am not suggesting Apple has fallen behind Windows or Android. Changing a setting on Windows 11 can often involve a journey through three or four different interface designs, artifacts of half-implemented changes dating back to the last century. Whenever I find myself stuck outside of Appleland, I am eager to return “home,” flaws and all. Hard agree with this. I sometimes have to boot up a windows laptop to play M…

I lost Windows fluency around 7. I have little desire to get it back even though I use it every day as a secondary system. How many "control panels"? How many places are there to adjust audio device properties?

Also, every time you run something in Windows (whether it's part of the OS or an App) it can be a trip down memory lane, UI-wise. Oooh, this dialog is 2015 vintage! This dialog is styled like Windows 8! This one is from the XP era! Ohh, and that rarified dialog has controls that have not been changed since Windows 95!

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by moralestapia »

Andaith wrote: post #63

They need a Snow-IOS too. - Ever since I've updated to the latest iOS 18, my watch complications(weather doodad) stop working randomly because they just lose the location services permission. Then in settings, the location services permission list acts like the weather app isn't installed. - The new Mail app now automatically classifies your email, but still gives you the "All Mail" option. But the unread count badge…

The recent Photos app update was a major regression.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by ddtaylor »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #66
spudlyo wrote: post #32

I'm done with macOS, I've migrated to Linux for my general purpose computing. With every new release of macOS, Gatekeeper is becoming harder and harder to bypass, increasing Apple's control over what software can be run on macOS, forcing apps to be signed with an Apple Developer ID. While I'm happy they are taking security seriously, I'm seriously creeped out that macOS sends hashes of every executable I run to their…

> Gatekeeper is becoming harder and harder to bypass sudo spctl —-master-disable

Why remember all these little tricks Apple makes you do to use your own hardware?

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by spudlyo »

rcarmo wrote: post #47
spudlyo wrote: post #32

I'm done with macOS, I've migrated to Linux for my general purpose computing. With every new release of macOS, Gatekeeper is becoming harder and harder to bypass, increasing Apple's control over what software can be run on macOS, forcing apps to be signed with an Apple Developer ID. While I'm happy they are taking security seriously, I'm seriously creeped out that macOS sends hashes of every executable I run to their…

The hashes are completely anonymized and not that intrusive. I'd rather they do it that way and have a global view of possible malware attacks than the complete free-for-all that other platforms "enjoy". But here's my (unpopular) take as a GNOME user and using Fedora immutable distros + flatpaks -- I suspect Linux is going to go in a broadly similar direction. Maybe not soon (even flatpaks aren't universally acclaime…

> I suspect Linux is going to go in a broadly similar direction.

Linux is pretty diverse, there are still distributions out there that haven't adopted systemd.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by rcarmo »

devilsdata wrote: post #113
rcarmo wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One word: Bazzite.

Fedora atomic distributions in general are great. I recommend Bluefin-dx over Bazzite (they’re both GNOME-based Fedora Atomic from the same group— universal blue) for developers, because it’s really easy to install the packages that Bazzite gives you, and it comes pre-installed with Docker.

I use Bluefin-dx as well, but pointed out Bazzite due to the mention of gaming. It's been rock solid for me for that use case.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by ryandrake »

themagician wrote: post #18

This is an interesting idea, and I am actually curious what Apple is going to do going forward. A "Snow Leopard"-esque release would be nice, but I think what would be better is an LTS release. Historically, you get a new Mac and you usually only get 5-6 years before they drop your model from the latest release. This has always made some sense to me, as after 4-6 years, you do start to feel it. I bought an M1 Max tha…

I don't have any Macs or iPhones that can even run the latest software anymore. My absolute newest Mac is stuck on Ventura 13.7. On the other hand, I can get the bleeding edge version of any Linux distribution out there and run it on decades-old hardware.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by detourdog »

whalesalad wrote: post #118
detourdog wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using a Mac since the 128k came out. System 7.5.3 and Snow Leopard 10.6.8 are in my opinion the high water mark for both OS’s. I still have some 10.6.8 install media for both server and client. Truly loved them both.

I worked at Apple Retail during the Snow Leopard launch. I think I still have a boxed disk somewhere, too. I remember it was not a product I had to sell to customers. People came in asking for it. Another highlight of that job was selling a green iPod Nano to "John Locke" from LOST

Those were the days…

The most ridiculous thing that happend to me was in the early days of the Apple Store in SOHO I stopped in to see if I could just buy RAM.

The music was loud so it was like I was speaking loudly to be heard and asked for RAM and the they thought I was asking if I could buy a gram.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by jshier »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #84
Andaith wrote: post #63

They need a Snow-IOS too. - Ever since I've updated to the latest iOS 18, my watch complications(weather doodad) stop working randomly because they just lose the location services permission. Then in settings, the location services permission list acts like the weather app isn't installed. - The new Mail app now automatically classifies your email, but still gives you the "All Mail" option. But the unread count badge…

> - Keyboard sometimes doesn't get out the way any more when it should. Depends on where you were seeing this of course, but this could very well be an app problem instead of a system problem. Native UIKit/SwiftUI do a little bit of keyboard management for “free”, but there are many circumstances where it falls on the developer’s shoulders to do this. For cross platform frameworks, some do keyboard management others…

In modern UIKit it's as simple as constraining to the keyboard layout guide. That gives you full animation support for free as well, no more need to listen for the notification and manually set up animations with the same timing and curve. On iPads the keyboard guide can even help you avoid the split keyboard, it's really nice.

Of course SwiftUI gives you almost none of this control, forcing you to hope the magic automatic support works how you expect.

But then neither help you with any of the other interactions, like any background dimming you may want, or tapping away from the keyboard to dismiss. That has to be done manually.

Re: Apple needs a Snow Sequoia

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Post by redeeman »

ryandrake wrote: post #116
rcarmo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hashes are completely anonymized and not that intrusive. I'd rather they do it that way and have a global view of possible malware attacks than the complete free-for-all that other platforms "enjoy". But here's my (unpopular) take as a GNOME user and using Fedora immutable distros + flatpaks -- I suspect Linux is going to go in a broadly similar direction. Maybe not soon (even flatpaks aren't universally acclaime…

It doesn't matter whether it is anonymized. Apple has no business collecting information about what executables I am running on my own computer, or even whether I'm running executables at all. I don't care what their stated purpose is. I don't care what they want a "global view" of. It's my computer, not theirs. I don't even mind that they've introduced a level on the totem pole that's above root. But on my computer,…

> it's my computer, not theirs.

the issue seems to be that you still believe this?

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