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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Post by tanseydavid »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #227
ackfoobar wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Azure Active Directory" (now "Entra ID") and "Active Directory" caused me a great deal of confusion.

"Active Directory" / "Active Directory Domain Service" / "Active Directory Application Mode" / "Active Directory Lightweight Directory Services" / "Azure Active Directory" / "Entra Id" / "Active Directory Federation Services" / "Active Directory Certificate Services" / "Active Directory Rights Management Services" Ugh... and don't even get my started about the pronunciation of "Azure" (or the fact that, somehow, they…

Don't forget "Azure Active Directory B2C".

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Post by TylerE »

isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

Do you expect anything else from the company that introduced "Plays For Sure" branding over a wide ecosystem, only to kill the ENTIRE thing (not just the branding) less than 5 years later? (as in, all purchased content became unplayable)

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Post by tcpudp1 »

runevault wrote: post #236
isoprophlex wrote: post #124

Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

dotnet for me is the most obvious example of how terrible they are at branding. First there was .NET framework which was windows only (note I'm ignoring Xamarian because it was originally not owned by MS). Then they decided to do a reboot with cross platform support and named that Dotnet Core. This was honestly fine. But then we reach late in the 3.x timeframe and they declare for real and for true that Framework is…

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Post by afiodorov »

>Live Captions now has live translations and will turn any audio that passes through your PC into a single, English-language caption experience, in real time on your screen across all your apps consistently. You can translate any live or pre-recorded audio in any app or video platform from over 40 languages into English subtitles instantly, automatically and even while you’re offline.

Wow that's an amazing feature!

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Post by jazzyjackson »

whitehexagon wrote: post #44
sturza wrote: post #33

Microsoft's Strategy and Products: Microsoft is shifting away from Intel chips, favoring Qualcomm's latest Snapdragon X Elite processors. The new Qualcomm chips boast better performance, power efficiency, and battery life, aiming to compete with Apple Silicon. Microsoft is launching Copilot Plus PCs, featuring built-in AI hardware for enhanced performance. Surface AI Announcements: Major updates to the Surface lineup…

> Can be configured with up to 32GB of memory From my experience running 'AI' locally I would have expected 32GB to be the minimum spec machine. Assuming memory unification if they try to compete with Apple.

they're not running any LLM locally, the NPU so far is just an accelerator for OCR (for rewind.ai (oops I mean Recall)) and webcam background replacement without a GPU

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Post by spookie »

temac wrote: post #221
jsheard wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also notable that Qualcomm is officially upstreaming kernel support for the Snapdragon Elite platform that Microsoft is pushing, so those systems may actually not suck at running Linux.

I thought Microsoft requires UEFI + secure boot for Windows, and with no disabling option in the firmware setup, for Windows Arm PC? Or maybe it was "only" Microsoft Secure Boot and you can actually use a Linux distro? If this is the latter case, can you build and run the kernel you want or not?

You can use secure boot on select distros. Coincidentally, they're the better ones as well (Debian, Fedora, openSUSE, etc...)

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Post by NotYourLawyer »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #225
resource_waste wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cannot imagine building on Microsoft in 2024. They have aggressively thrown their weight around doing anti-consumer moves. These are the warning signs they don't need to care about their customers and can fully exploit their market monopoly. I still have ads after an update in windows 11 pro. Not to mention I have file explorer bugs and one note path hijacking annoyances. Legacy software is why we still use windows…

> Legacy software is why we still use windows. There is nothing better about windows than say, Fedora. Except, of course, the legacy software support.

And hardware support.

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Post by AdamH12113 »

AdamH12113 wrote: post #229

Billions of dollars to cram "AI" down our throats, but they can't be bothered to get Excel back up to the level of quality and performance it had 20 years ago.

In retaliation for this comment, Excel glitched out and deleted fifteen minutes' worth of carefully-formatted graphs when I tried to save.

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Post by onemoresoop »

pquki4 wrote: post #240
grugagag wrote: post #141

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Not if you tell them beware, all this will be used against you in some way in the future.

Doesn't the fact that lots of people use Facebook daily despite the scandals say something? It's abundantly clear that most people don't care about how their data are used. Here "most" means people outside HN.

Lots of people I know completely stopped used Facebook. Some are still on IG though...

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Post by onemoresoop »

lolinder wrote: post #115
drevil-v2 wrote: post #87

Being the designated "tech" person for my extended family and friends circle, I don't think I could recommend this to any of them because of the privacy nightmare. At least with Apple you have a single vendor who is vertically integrated and makes a huge song and dance about data privacy. Even if you discount their PR and marketing spin, IMHO you are still miles ahead of the likes of Microsoft + (pick one) HP, Asus,…

Are they actually collecting new data to enable these features? Or is all of this data collected no matter what version of Windows you have installed? It seems to me that what you just said is an argument against Windows in general, not against these new features.

It's probably easier for MS to just collect that no matter what so I doubt they'd stop themselves from doing it.
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