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Apple to wind down electric car effort after decadelong odyssey

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Re: Apple to wind down electric car effort after decadelong odyssey

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But Google has Waymo. Either way, Apple will be far behind.

Yeah, but I don't think Google was planning on being an auto manufacturer. Isn't Google's plan to partner with existing manufacturers?

They actually did but mainly with Google play. So far it feels like Microsoft is moving faster in that regard and getting partnerships with various automakers with AI at least.

Re: Apple to wind down electric car effort after decadelong odyssey

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It seems almost like they kept the rumor of an Apple car going to ensure a stock price tailwind during the EV boom. That’s over, now layoffs and AI are the new hotness. This move hits both of these. Seems to be working, stock is up on the news.

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Embarrassingly, I was eves dropping on a (loud) woman in a coffee shop who worked on the Apple Car project. She did SLAM work. I was evesdropping because that was a core part of my thesis and I was curious. She told her dining partner she was moved to the Vision Pro team to build the inside-out tracking. Research for the sake of research sometimes pays off. Who knows if this product will recoup the billions spent on…

I am incredibly jealous of you guys living in a place where you just bump into random people at coffeeshops that happen to work on incredibly interesting things. The density of talent must be amazing.

The Bay Area is pretty special that way

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Embarrassingly, I was eves dropping on a (loud) woman in a coffee shop who worked on the Apple Car project. She did SLAM work. I was evesdropping because that was a core part of my thesis and I was curious. She told her dining partner she was moved to the Vision Pro team to build the inside-out tracking. Research for the sake of research sometimes pays off. Who knows if this product will recoup the billions spent on…

There was a recent YC podcast about Vision Pro where SLAM and the overlap with autonomous vehicles was explained.

Link? I didn’t know YC had a podcast and Google didn't help.

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This is a smart move. Apple seems so far behind in generative AI it's making Google look innovative.

They haven't released anything yet it's unfair to say how far behind they are. I don't expect them to catch up with Open AI but perhaps they could be on par with Google.

Apple's advantage is always been superior hardware and processing. My guess is that they try to do some on device LLM. It's currently possible to run Mistral 7B on your phone (MLCChat app), which is quite decent for a small model but is pretty terrible compared to the largest / best models.

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>>for example, when you press the brakes there isn't and hasn't been for a long time a direct connection to the physical brakes I'm sorry but you're getting it completely wrong. Brake by wire isn't legal anywhere in any market of the world and consequently there are zero cars implemented this way - every car currently on sale everywhere has to have a physical connection between the brake pedal and the actual brakes.…

Lexus has a backup mechanical link it engages when a fault is detected. The Tesla Cybertruck is the first vehicle on the road with no such backup. They rely on redundancy of motors, power, and compute instead

Does it have a backup link? According to this video:

https://youtu.be/agMrewRJTow?si=DrjfGsrKp5_ZazB-

There isn't a mechanical connection of any kind - the car just relies on triple(!) Backup for every component, including three fully independent power sources.

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"I drive an Apple" sounds so odd.

Richard Scarry's Lowly Worm character drives one. He was ahead of his time.

Crafted from the fruit of the earth and driven by a worm, the Literal Apple Car embodies the principles of renewable resources and minimal environmental impact, setting an imaginative precedent for eco-friendly design.
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