The Internet Is Full of AI Dogshit

Post by Aurornis » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:14 PM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #118

Although I agree with the title, I also don't think the internet is that significantly different from before GPTs 4, 3, or 2. Articles written by interns or Indian virtual assistants about generic topics are pretty much as bad as most AI generated material and isn't that distinguishable from it. It doesn't help that search engines today sort by prestige over whether your query matches text in a webpage. People aren't…

Post by mvdtnz » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:14 PM UTC

j0hnyl wrote: post #127

asylteltine wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s true. I thought I missed the internet before ClosedAI ruined it but man, I would love to go back to 2020 internet now. LLM research is going to be the downfall of society in so many ways. Even at a basic level my friend is taking a masters and EVERYONE is using chatgpt for responses. It’s so obvious with the PC way it phrases things and then summarizes it at the end. I hope they just get expelled.

I don't see how this points to downfall of society. IMO it's clearly a paradigm shift that we need to adjust to and adjustment periods are uncomfortable and can last a long time. LLMs are massive productivity boosters.

Post by ashton314 » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:15 PM UTC

wantsanagent wrote: post #219

If you've ready Anathem ... as Ita it's our job to filter the crap from the Reticulum anyway so let's get to it. :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathem https://anathem.fandom.com/wiki/Ita https://anathem.fandom.com/wiki/Reticulum

    “Early in the Reticulum—thousands of years ago—it became almost
    useless because it was cluttered with faulty, obsolete, or downright
    misleading information,” Sammann said.
   
    “Crap, you once called it,” I reminded him.
   
    “Yes—a technical term. So crap filtering became important. Businesses
    were built around it. Some of those businesses came up with a clever
    plan to make more money: they poisoned the well. They began to put
    crap on the Reticulum deliberately, forcing people to use their
    products to filter that crap back out. They created syndevs whose sole
    purpose was to spew crap into the Reticulum. But it had to be good
    crap.”
   
    “What is good crap?” Arsibalt asked in a politely incredulous tone.
   
    “Well, bad crap would be an unformatted document consisting of random
    letters. Good crap would be a beautifully typeset, well-written
    document that contained a hundred correct, verifiable sentences and
    one that was subtly false. It’s a lot harder to generate good crap. At
    first they had to hire humans to churn it out. They mostly did it by
    taking legitimate documents and inserting errors—swapping one name for
    another, say. But it didn’t really take off until the military got
    interested.”
   
    “As a tactic for planting misinformation in the enemy’s reticules, you
    mean,” Osa said. “This I know about. You are referring to the
    Artificial Inanity programs of the mid–First Millennium A.R.”
   
    “Exactly!” Sammann said. “Artificial Inanity systems of enormous
    sophistication and power were built for exactly the purpose Fraa Osa
    has mentioned. In no time at all, the praxis leaked to the commercial
    sector and spread to the Rampant Orphan Botnet Ecologies. Never mind.
    The point is that there was a sort of Dark Age on the Reticulum that
    lasted until my Ita forerunners were able to bring matters in hand.”

Post by Log_out_ » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

a_c wrote: post #150

peppermint_gum wrote: post #89

One aspect of the spread of LLMs is that we have lost a useful heuristic. Poor spelling and grammar used to be a signal used to quickly filter out worthless posts. Unfortunately, this doesn't work at all for AI-generated garbage. Its command of the language is perfect - in fact, it's much better than that of most human beings. Anyone can instantly generate superficially coherent posts. You no longer have to hire a co…

Things go in cycle. Search engine was so much better at discovering linked websites. Then people play the SEO game, write bogus articles, cross link this and that, everyone got into writing. Everyone write the same cliches over and over, quality of search engine plumets. But then since we are regurgitating the same thought over and over again, why not automate it. Over time people will forget where the quality post c…

Post by Shorel » Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #118

Although I agree with the title, I also don't think the internet is that significantly different from before GPTs 4, 3, or 2. Articles written by interns or Indian virtual assistants about generic topics are pretty much as bad as most AI generated material and isn't that distinguishable from it. It doesn't help that search engines today sort by prestige over whether your query matches text in a webpage. People aren't…