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Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by specto »

capableweb wrote: post #56
komali2 wrote: post #51

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FOSS photo software with face recognition (note that some of this is off-premise face recognition, sometimes requiring an API key you get on your own) https://damselfly.info https://github.com/LibrePhotos/librephotos https://photoview.github.io/ I may have missed some: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#pho...

What I found in my previous search is that either they're really good at managing large collections of photos, or they're really good at doing various AI/recognition, but none of what I've found have been good at both. Hence my interest in DigiKam as their management features for large collections is second to none.

I think immich will get there eventually

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sagebird wrote: post #248

When I hear individuals on talk about their backup routines they have developed, home nas servers, scripts that keep things synched, etc, I can’t help but to think about failed crypto ux attempts. I don’t like relying on monolithic monopolized corporate services as much as the next hacker— but I think there should be an easy to understand service for the 98% of basic users. If someone could make a service that detect…

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Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by InCityDreams »

KomoD wrote: post #28
tecleandor wrote: post #8

I don't know if it's due to one of those weird GDPR blocking rules (I'm in Europe) but amazonforum.com doesn't let me connect. It just drops my connection: http https://www.amazonforum.com http: LogLevel.ERROR: ConnectionError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='www.amazonforum.com', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: / (Caused by NewConnectionError(' : Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 61] Connection refuse…

> I don't know if it's due to one of those weird GDPR blocking rules (I'm in Europe) but amazonforum.com doesn't let me connect. It's not, I'm in EU as well, can connect without any issues

Those blocks are tiresome. Like the eu is going to go after the eg alabama times or other small sites. I just vpn to usa and send them an email. Google etc...easy meat for gdpr, but for small site - why are you tracking me anyway?

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by ProAm »

sagebird wrote: post #248

When I hear individuals on talk about their backup routines they have developed, home nas servers, scripts that keep things synched, etc, I can’t help but to think about failed crypto ux attempts. I don’t like relying on monolithic monopolized corporate services as much as the next hacker— but I think there should be an easy to understand service for the 98% of basic users. If someone could make a service that detect…

The problem is no one wants to learn how to do it. Everyone wants the easy button. This is why we have the cloud, iCloud storage, google photos, amazon photos, back blaze, etc....

None of this is that hard to do, not one just wants to put a minimal amount of effort into learning how to do backups, or automate them or deal with DR scenarios. If this information is important to you it would behoove you to learn how to protect it. Otherwise its not that important to you. Obviously IMHO.

Re: Is something wrong with Amazon Photos? I lost 240k photos

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Post by rolisz »

coldpie wrote: post #157
stepri wrote: post #16

This is just a reminder to take a backup of your cloud photos and store it locally (or other cloud provider). For example, with Google Takeout you can get a ZIP file with all your photos and videos from Google Photos.

So... what do y'all actually do with your hundreds of thousands of photos? I just bulk delete everything older than a month when my phone is low on storage. Do you ever actually go back and look at any of the hundreds of thousands of pictures? When do you do this?

Fun party trick: look up old photos of people when you meet them after a long time and show it to them. Everyone is shocked/embarrassed. Extra points if you can pull up childhood photos of them.

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Post by lostlogin »

akho wrote: post #42
gdelfino01 wrote: post #3

I love my Synology NAS. It handles photos great: https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/feature/photos

I own a Synology NAS, and now believe that it would have been easier to just set up a computer for the tasks I use it for. There are just too many cases where the solution is to use a container (and the clumsy web interfaces for reverse proxying &c), and if I end up SSHing into it too much, I prefer to have a more controllable environment. It does fit some workflows very well though, you just have to assess if your n…

You may be able to run a VM on your Synology via their app.

I run a Mac VM on mine but via iscsi as the actual VM host hasn’t enough storage to hold my library.

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Post by mceachen »

VLM wrote: post #158

From a scalability standpoint how does one accumulate, and then utilize, a quarter million photos? I'm a bit older than most, but that would be a photo every other hour since the minute I was born... Kind of a digital hoarder moment. Which is relevant because my entire archive fits on a flash drive and I have a couple flash drives and its no big deal at that small of a scale. But a quarter mil pics will take some ser…

I’ve been taking (digital) photos since 1999. I’ve got 350k unique images, but more than a million unique SHAs.

I’ll maybe take a couple a day when out for a walk. 10-50 for an event. 20-30 for a big family gathering. My kids were always a good excuse to pull out the camera. It all adds up.

If you shoot with a big camera, people frequently opt for “JPEG+RAW” which is two image files every time you tap the shutter release. That adds up.

Also, if you use(d) google photos, or any other service that downscaled your originals, and then _also_ directly take a backup of your DCIM directory off of your phone, there’s another source of duplicate images.

I wrote more about this here: https://photostructure.com/faq/what-do-you-mean-by-deduplica...

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Post by aftbit »

temp2022account wrote: post #48
prox wrote: post #4

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Is that your only backup? Because precious photos need more than one (like any backup regime really) Still it sucks and it shouldn’t happen, hopefully it’s just a reporting error in the app.

Sharing my family-photo-backup system: - Synology NAS is accessible on LAN & phones sync photos when at home - Nightly rsync from internal NAS storage to 1 external (non-raid) hard drive The nightly rsync does not delete files, so the external hard drive is pretty close to an off-site backup even though it's still attached. The only better thing I've thought of doing is mounting it ro after backups + re-mounting befo…

IMO the biggest remaining risk to this is a house fire at night while you are at home. You wake up to alarms and smoke and run out the door without your phone. All three copies of your photos will burn at once. This is where an additional off-site would be valuable. That might be a second external hard drive that you store off-site and re-sync every few months, or maybe an encrypted cloud backup using restic.

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Post by aftbit »

hassancf wrote: post #135
patrakov wrote: post #69

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> This is why I use both Amazon Photos and Google Photos simultaneously on all my devices. If one of them screws up I've always got the other one. That's insufficient. If one of then screws up, deletions will likely propagate to the other.

Exactly. And if it’s a local backup, that local backup needs to be taken offline, to avoid the same issue if things get deleted in the cloud

Or use a versioned backup so you can recover from deletes or corruption. ZFS snapshots, restic versions, even rsync + symlinks can work.

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Post by lostlogin »

aftbit wrote: post #244
delfinom wrote: post #160

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They could be a photographer. Often they'll take numerous photos in a very short time span to capture a bunch of movement and angles just so they can pick the best of the bunch later Why do they keep everything? Idk, /r/datahoarder is a subreddit that exists though so the mindset is out there

IMO... why not? 250k photos at 10MB each is only ~2.5 TB. That easily fits on modern hard drives. You can even buy SSDs that would fit that for under $500. If you are a professional photographer, then you absolutely should keep everything you ever shoot, just in case one photo is ever worth it. Even if you're an amateur though, that's not really that much storage in the grand scheme of things.

It’s a complete pain if you use a laptop as your daily driver. You don’t want the entire drive filled with photos, and using an external drive with Apple Photos is a PITA as the integration with iCloud doesn’t play nice if the drive isn’t reliably attached.

Apple would make a lot of lives easier if they made a tidy way of exporting images from Photos easier to automate. And while they are there, a photo file structure that wasn’t horrible, with photos names something like ‘date-time’.

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